
“Everything suggests that the attack…… was deliberately committed by forces inside the US government hostile to the ceasefire….Claims that US fighters were unaware of who they were bombing are simply not credible, and are flatly contradicted by other accounts in the media…”
— Alex Lantier, World Socialist Web Site
A rift between the Pentagon and the White House turned into open rebellion on Saturday when two US F-16s and two A-10 warplanes bombed Syrian Arab Army (SAA) positions at Deir al-Zor killing at least 62 Syrian regulars and wounding 100 others. The US has officially taken responsibility for the incident which it called a “mistake”, but the timing of the massacre has increased speculation that the attack was a desperate, eleventh-hour attempt to derail the fragile ceasefire and avoid parts of the implementation agreement that Pentagon leaders publicly opposed. Many analysts now wonder whether the attacks are an indication that the neocon-strewn DOD is actively engaged in sabotaging President Obama’s Syria policy, a claim that implies that the Pentagon is led by anti-democratic rebels who reject the Constitutional authority of the civilian leadership. Saturday’s bloodletting strongly suggests that a mutiny is brewing at the War Department.
The chasm that’s emerged between the Pentagon warhawks and the more conciliatory members of the Obama administration has drawn criticism from leading media outlets in the US (The New York Times) to high-ranking members in the Russian cabinet. On Saturday, at an emergency press conference at the United Nations, Russia’s UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin referred to the apparent power struggle that is taking place in Washington with these blunt comments:
“The big question that has to be asked is ‘Who is in charge in Washington? Is it the White House or the Pentagon?’ …Because we have heard comments from the Pentagon which fly in the face of comments we have heard from Obama and Kerry…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bID01gIEIOY&t=615
See–10:15 second)
Churkin is not the only one who has noticed the gap between Obama and his generals. A recent article in the New York Times also highlighted the divisions which appear to be widening as the situation in Syria continues to deteriorate. Here’s an excerpt from the New York Times:
(SECDEF Ash) “Carter was among the administration officials who pushed against the (ceasefire) agreement … Although President Obama ultimately approved the effort. On Tuesday at the Pentagon, officials would not even agree that if a cessation of violence in Syria held for seven days — the initial part of the deal — the Defense Department would put in place its part of the agreement on the eighth day…
“I’m not saying yes or no,” Lt. Gen. Jeffrey L. Harrigian, commander of the United States Air Forces Central Command, told reporters on a video conference call. “It would be premature to say that we’re going to jump right into it.” (“Details of Syria Pact Widen Rift Between John Kerry and Pentagon“, New York Times)
Think about that for a minute: Lt. General Harrigian appears to be saying that he may not follow an order from the Commander in Chief if it’s not to his liking. When exactly did military leaders start to believe that orders are optional or that the DOD had a role to play in policymaking? Here’s more from the NYT:
“The divide between Mr. Kerry and Mr. Carter reflects the inherent conflict in Mr. Obama’s Syria policy. The president has come under increased fire politically for his refusal to intervene more forcefully in the five-year civil war, which the United Nations says has killed more than 400,000 people, displaced more than six million and led to a refugee crisis in Europe. But keeping large numbers of American ground forces out of Syria has also created space for Russia to assume a greater role there, both on the battlefield and at the negotiating table…..
The result is that at a time when the United States and Russia are at their most combative posture since the end of the Cold War, the American military is suddenly being told that it may, in a week, have to start sharing intelligence with one of its biggest adversaries to jointly target Islamic State and Nusra Front forces in Syria.
“I remain skeptical about anything to do with the Russians,” Gen. Philip M. Breedlove, who recently stepped down as NATO’s supreme allied commander, said Monday in an interview. “There are a lot of concerns about putting out there where our folks are.” (New York Times)
So warhawk Supremo, Ash Carter, and his Russophobe colleagues want to intensify the conflict, expand America’s military footprint in Syria, and confront Russia directly. They don’t approve of the President’s policy, so they’re doing everything they can to torpedo the ceasefire deal. But why now, after all, the ceasefire began five days ago? If Carter and Co. saw the cessation of hostilities as such a threat , why didn’t they act before?
There’s a simple explanation for that. The real danger was not the ceasefire per se, but the parts of the agreement that required the US military to work collaboratively with the Russian Airforce to defeat terrorist organizations operating in Syria, namely al Nusra and ISIS. This is the part of the deal the Pentagon openly opposed, and this is the part of the deal that was set to be implemented on Monday, September 19, less than 48 hours after the attacks on Saturday. Now the future of the accord is greatly in doubt which is precisely what Carter and his generals wanted. Here’s a little more background from Churkin’s comments on Saturday:
“It was quite significant and not accidental that it (the attack) happened just two days before the Russian-American arrangements were supposed to come into full force….
The purpose of the joint implementation group, is to enable expanded coordination between the US and Russia. The participants are to work together to defeat al Nusra and Daesh within the context of strengthening the cessation of hostilities and in support of the political transition process outlined in UNSC 2254. These were very important arrangements which–in our view–could really be a game changer and greatly assist our efforts to defeat al Nusra and ISIL while also creating better conditions for the political process…..
The implementation day was set for the Sept 19, so if the US wanted to attack ISIS or al Nusra, they could have waited two days and coordinated those attacks together and been sure they were striking the right people…One can only conclude that the airstrike was conducted in order to derail the operation of the Joint Implementation Group and actually prevent it from being set in motion.” (Watch the entire video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bID01gIEIOY
The reason Moscow sees the “expanded coordination between the US and Russia” as a “game changer” is because neither Putin nor his advisors believe the war can be won militarily. That’s why Putin reduced Russia’s military presence in Syria in December. He wanted to reduce tensions and create opportunities for negotiations. Moscow realizes that there will never be a settlement to the conflict unless the major participants agree to a political solution. That’s why Putin is doing everything in his power to draw the US into an arrangement where Moscow and Washington share security responsibilities. That is the goal of the ceasefire, to create a situation where both superpowers are on the same team, involved in the same process, and working towards the same goal.
Unfortunately, the Pentagon warhawks and their allies in the US political establishment and the intelligence community, will have none of it. The objectives of the hawks, the liberal interventionists and the neocons are the same as they have been from the very beginning. They want to topple Assad, splinter Syria into multiple parts, install a US-puppet in Damascus, control critical pipelines corridors from Qatar to Turkey, and inflict a humiliating defeat on Russia. For this group, any entanglement or cooperation with Russia only undermines their ultimate objective of escalating the conflict, strengthening their grip on the Middle East, and rolling back Russian influence.
This is what makes the unprecedented attack on Syrian Army positions so suspicious; it’s because it looks like a last-ditch effort by a desperate Pentagon rebels to terminate the ceasefire and prevent Washington from partnering with Moscow in the fight against militant extremism. As to whether the attacks were “intentional” or not; military analyst Pat Lang posted this illuminating tidbit on his website Sic Semper Tyrannis on Saturday:
“The SAA (Syrian Arab Army) has been occupying these positions for six months or so. Presumably US imagery and SIGINT analysts have been looking at them all that time and producing map overlays that show who is where in detail. These documents would be widely available especially to air units and their targeteers. US coalition led air has not struck previously in the Deir al-Zor area.”
So, yes, the attacks might have been a “mistake”, but the chances of that are extremely slim. The more probable explanation is that the orders for the attack came from the highest levels of the senior command, probably Ash Carter himself, whose determination to derail the Obama-Putin ceasefire agreement may have been the impetus for the savage bloodbath that took place in Deir al-Zor on Saturday.
It’s impossible to overstate the significance of the clash between the DOD and the White House. Resistance to Obama’s Syria policy has suddenly escalated into open rebellion between dissenting members of the military hierarchy and the elected representatives of the people. The tragic bombing in Deir al-Zor is probably just the first skirmish in this new war. We expect there will be more confrontations in the days to come.
MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at [email protected].
If this was a rogue military action, one of two events must follow:
1. The rogue military officers will be arrested and court-martialed; or
2. Obama does nothing. In which case, he is weaker and more cowardly than any President in history.
If it was not a rogue action, then Obama does nothing. In which case, it was mass murder by our government, approved by the President.
So unless their are arrests and court-martials, Obama is either a weak, coward or a mass murderer.
You are saying the pentagon blew up a cease fire agreement negotiated by the administration. Is mutiny the right word? How do we know Obama intended to honor the agreement? Something does not add up. Obama knew Ash Carter was a war monger when he appointed him.
Cui bono? The jooies, of course. Another arab enemy destroyed without lifting a finger, the hated anti-semitic euros being flooded with muzzie terrorists, the americans made to look like the useful idiots they are, and best of all…..the right people raking in lots of easy shekels peddling tons and tons of armaments. Got to hand it to the khazars……they are real tricksters….
This account excludes any consideration of the role of the coalition forces. The uk, Australia, etc. I read the latter pulled out after consulting russia? What is that all about?Also uk reaper drones were involved, and an enquiry is underway, pm theresa may has stated they would not attack syrian forces, etc. So if the Pentagon and cash carter intended this from the outset they have deliberately misled their allies. Quite serious. No mention of sam power, her hysterical reaction says much, was it staged or genuine? I thought UN was more obama near? Her hysteria perhaps expressing genuine exasperation about losing control.
The author’s viewpoint of events coincides with that of Prof. Emeritus Steve Cohen as expressed earlier this evening on the John Batchelor Radio Program. For what it’s worth, I also concur with Cohen’s interpretation of events both in Syria and Ukraine. This concurrence both perplexes, surprises and satisfies me since it melds my paleoconservative views with those of Cohen who is part of The Nation magazine (as writer and being married to its editor/financial angel). Surprising, since I have always regarded The Nation as being part of the old line Bolshevik enterprise.
Several articles in the US military press pointed towards the military mutiny that Mike describes, on top of all circumstantial evidence listed. Therefore, the mutineers are hiding by putting articles in their own media in plain sight. Essentially, they had enough of unfinished business in Syria – it has to be turned into Lybia and move the US military show to the next misfortunate part of the World. Mike is spot on what the mutineers want, maybe he only forgot to mention that Deir Al-Zor bombing was also Ashcarter’s job application for the Hillary administration (if she somehow manages to get over the POTUS finishing line on baby-blood transfusions).
After reading the first comment in this thread I had a funny image of Obama doing the Erdogan against the coup leaders (ROFL). Perhaps in some alternative universe.
As an addenda to my previous discussion: another thing that Cohen mentioned was the performance of Samantha Powers as our representative at the U.N. Her discussion of the Syrian massacre by U.S. forces was completely unhinged – something that you would expect from a slatternly Dublin fishmonger!
The cease fire was doomed from the start, and state/cia/mil are still determined to intervene in Assad’s affairs. The rest is just semantics.
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Dr. Ashton Carter’s ‘kosher credentials’ can be checked by the company he keeps. To name a few, Carter and Philip D. Zelikow, the ‘man behind 9/11’ penned an article in 1998, entitled Catastrophic Terrorism, for the Jewish-controlled CFR magazine. The article detailed America’s reaction to an event like 9/11, and its beneficiaries in the long run. Carter is a great admirer of Bush’s deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz, a US-Israel citizen and supporter of Netanyahu’s racist Likud party. Carters’ close allies also includes John Bolton at the Jewish lobby group American Enterprise Institute (AEI), Dr. Anthony Cordesman, founder Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a pro-Israel national security consulting group, and Sen. John McCain.
Carter is known ‘hawkish’ when in comes to US foreign policy towards Iran, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan, N. Korea, China – and even Russia.
During his 2013 visit to Israel, Carter told Jewish soldiers with the Oketz Canine Unit that “protecting America means protecting Israel.”
– https://rehmat1.com/2014/12/05/ashton-carter-the-kosher-gentile-to-head-pentagon/
A more plausible explanation is found in the well informed blog Moon of Alabama Sept 20. Read it here http://www.moonofalabama.org/
Obama is much stronger than Hillary, imagine what the Pentagon will do with her wanton servile laughing crazy attacks.
Did the Pentagon Bomb Syrian Army to Kill Ceasefire Deal?
Of course the Pentagon did. As the Syrian Army points out, ISIS was poised to counterattack them right after the air strike (ISIS knew it was coming), opening the way for ISIS to pour into central Syria.
This isn’t the only example of the Pentagon being at “war” with other agencies of the Federal government — in this case the State Department. Indeed, the Pentagon has been so successful in pushing the State Department aside that it can now be considered irrelevant in US foreign policy.
The CIA has also been a Pentagon target. There are numerous examples of the Pentagon selecting and arming factions in Syria to counter factions that the CIA had previously armed. The factions then go at each other with American arms and other support as the Pentagon tries to elbow the CIA out of the game in Syria.
There is precedent for the Pentagon “going cowboy”. One has only to look at the examples of generals Curtis LeMay and Lyman Lemnitzer during the Kennedy administration to find an earlier example of renegade generals running amok and, in this case, taking us dangerously close to the nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union that the generals so assiduously wanted.
About That UN Aid Convoy that was Attacked in Syria and the Video of the FSA “Barrel Bomb” Launcher Driving by the Convoy
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/about-that-un-aid-convoy-that-was-attacked-in-syria-and-the-video-of-the-fsa-barrel-bomb-launcher-driving-by-the-convoy/
Instructional:
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/putin-turns-tables-on-poland-awkward.html
“…before the USSR invaded Poland in 1939 [Molotov-Ribentropp pact] – Poland invaded Czechoslovakia, in cahoots with Hitler [Munich Agreement, 1938.] The Molotov-Ribentropp pact has been publicly condemned by the modern Russian parliament, and brought down to being a personal pact between Hitler and Stalin themselves, rather than any will of the people.”
Excellent link to a highly plausible scenario of the US attack on Syria. However, this does not exclude the possibility that this plan is being executed without the knowldge of Obama and Kerry. Obama is disinterested (he would rather play golf) and Kerry is stupid enough to be used by the Ziocons in this way. But whether Kerry was negotiating the cease-fire in good faith or not is irrelevant, because I know of no cease-fire that the US ever negotiated which was not a rouse to improve the military situation of their puppets/terrorists in the field.
Therefore, the Russians are to blame for their catastrophic wishful thinking that the US and Israeli war on Syria can be resolved by negotiations, all of a sudden after more than five years of war.
Also, one has to admire the US and Israel’s propaganda planning, they must have prepared the attack on UN convoy false flag at the same time as the attack on Syrian Arab Army. Today the killing of a “few dozen” Syrian soldiers has been replaced by the blaring propaganda about the Russian aggression against UN.
Could we connect bombings in NJ and NYC to it? Was it to create media cover up of attack on Syrian Army and Russia’s request to deal with it at UN?
“Making Sense of the Kinder/Gentler Terror Distraction of Ahmad Khan Rahami”
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/making-sense-of-the-kindergentler-terror-distraction-of-ahmad-khan-rahami/
“Also, one has to admire the US and Israel’s propaganda planning, they must have prepared the attack on UN convoy false flag at the same time as the attack on Syrian Arab Army. Today the killing of a “few dozen” Syrian soldiers has been replaced by the blaring propaganda about the Russian aggression against UN.” – It seems that it all was planned that way. Poor Russians all they are left with is “Il faut faire une bonne mine pour mauvais jeu.” Whenever Putin talks about the US he uses the phrase “our partners.” I wonder whether the wishful thinking of being a partner of the US is the only goal of Russian foreign policy.
Chief of Staff of the Air Force is named Goldfein….need any more info as to the “accidental” bombing of Syrians? The Romans were a practical race and always asked the question “cui bono?” to quickly locate the culprits?
Yes, the Pentagon bombed the Syrian army to kill the ceasefire deal. Duh!
The American government is corrupt from the bottom to the top, in every department, agency. and military branch. Government employees are more highly paid and benefited than any workers in private industry, with the exception of most Boards of Directors.
America is over. Until revolution blows these crooked sons of bitches to kingdom come, the depredation of everything American citizens once had, and continue to desperately work for, will be ruthlessly pursued.
NOPE the Pentagon bombed Syrian army because it’s making a killing of US-Israel trained ISIL thugs with help of Lebanese Hizbullah fighters.
Both Putin and Iranian leaders are of the opinion that US never strike anti-Assad rebels but those who are fighting against them.
Iranian FM Dr. Javad rejected John Kerry’s proposal on US-Iran collaboration against ISIS/ISIL in Geneva early last year. In September 2014, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei refused to help the US against IS because he believed that the US is not fighting against ISIS/ISIL, but against Syrians and Iraqis who are resisting US-Israel-Saudi agenda in the region….
https://rehmat1.com/2015/09/11/why-iran-refuses-to-cooperate-with-us-against-isis/
Seriously?
Who demands mass immigration into white gentile countries, but stops non-Jew immigration into “that shitty little country”?
Who runs the Federal Reserve?
Who runs Wall Street?
Who owns the US Congress?
Who owns the White House?
Who dominates the US Supreme Court?
Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
Who runs the media / entertainment?
Who runs the music business?
Who dominates ‘academia’?
Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions?
Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard?
Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
Who are the real & biggest racists on the planet?
Jews in US admit “Israel First”
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/bluntly-firsters-politics/
excerpt:
“It’s good that American Jews will begin openly saying of other Jews that their first loyalty is Israel.
I believe the bombing was intentional, in support of the CIA/Mossad created terrorist group, ISIL.
No, he is interested, it is just that he is utterly incompetent and a coward.
nothing is clear cut, non of us have all the facts, we can only make educated guesses based on public info. the only people who do are the pentagon and obama.
based on what we know, pentagon bombed the syrian army, killing/wounding about 150, within days of the ceasefire.
War monger or not, pentagon doesn’t have the right/power to start wars on it’s whim. rebellion is kinda light, I call it treason if pentagon did it knowing they were bombing syrian forces after the treaty.
off topic: I think articles like this is great, for current events. not weeks or months later.
Absolutely. This was all the news. The other never happened as far as the trusting public knows:
Today the killing of a “few dozen” Syrian soldiers has been replaced by the blaring propaganda about the Russian aggression against UN.
Hey AO2,
Very good point – dragging the country into war like this should be grounds for court martial or worse.
Peace.
My ‘agree’ button doesn’t work, so I’ll just say ‘amen’. Our current form of government is looting and check cashing.
The term “partner” has an almost sinister connotation: for the Russians, there are allies, friends, partners and enemies. So short of a declaration of war on the United States, Putin is bound to refer to the Americans as “our partners.”
Worse. A war crime.
Since 9/11 the US has engaged in an endless series of aggressive wars, the ultimate crime according to the Nuremberg standard, and the reason the US hanged Nazis after the war.
Time now to start hanging Americans, beginning with Obama, Kerry and the warmongers at the Pentagon and State Department.
Won’t happen, of course, until the end of WW3, coming to your TV screens soon.
“Obama knew Ash Carter was a war monger when he appointed him”
Correct.
Ashton Carter, the-ziocons’ choice, had sold his soul for money and influence long time ago, in the 90-s, by starting cooperating with major war-profiteers:
“Ashton Carter (left rear) was a Senior Partner at Global Technology Partners LLC, a firm focused on advising investment firms in technology and defense. In 2000, when Carter was a senior partner, GTP LLC was acquired by Rothschild North America. When Rothschild acquired GTP, Gerald Rosenfeld, Chief Executive Officer of Rothschild North America, said, “We believe the combination of Rothschild’s global relationships and Global Technology Partner’s access to and knowledge of the international defense and aerospace industry will create high level strategic advisory and investment opportunities.”
The following year, 2001, the U.S. defense budget doubled from $300 billion to $600 billion per year as a result of the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. The Rothschilds were very well placed to profit from the immense flows of money pouring into the Pentagon.
In 1998, as a senior partner at GTP, Carter co-authored an article with John Deutch and Philip Zelikow [the executive director of the 9/11 Commission] entitled “Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger.” The first section of the article is subtitled “Imagining the Transforming Event.” This article lays out the blueprint for how the authors think the U.S. government should respond to an act of “catastrophic terrorism”, which, the authors said, “poses an eminent threat to America’s future.”
“…sam power… Her hysteria perhaps expressing genuine exasperation about losing control.”
She did indeed behave like soulless automation. A complete decay of humanness. She looked as if undergoing an accelerated process of disintegration.
Colonel Karen U. Kwiatkowski has detailed quite extensively the Neocon takeover of the American military way back at the time of the Iraq invasion in 2003. She, along with possibly thousands or more loyal, patriotic American officers were, in effect, purged at this time and forced into early retirement.
Now our military leaders, just like our servile Washington politicians, know that opposing the dictates of Israel can have severe career consequences both before and after retirement.
Retired officers considered unfriendly to Israel will definitely not be getting any of those plush lobbying jobs or advisory positions.
As usual, it’s always cui bono.
“Essentially, they had enough of unfinished business in Syria – it has to be turned into Lybia and move the US military show to the next misfortunate part of the World.”
This smells of ziocons’ arrogance.
“…and state/cia/mil are still determined to intervene in Assad’s affairs”
– You mean, Israel-firsters are determined to prevail by any means?
Here is a story of Colonel Lang dismissed by Douglas Feith because Colonel Lang was too professional and too knowledgeable about Middle East. Which means, that the ziocons wanted to act in accordance with ideas only.
This specific strain of humans that Feith, Wolfowitz, Kristols, Kagans and such represent, have a minor defect, the absence of conscience and shame, which makes them into a sub-specie of dangerously-defective humans. They will not stop at anything. Like a parasitic fly first attacks the brain of a much larger host to make the host into a docile food for devouring, the ziocons are ready to put humanity at the risk for extinction because this is what their shameless arrogance dictates.
Here is a metaphorical illustration to the ziocons actions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg
Video Link
“The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior.”
“The divide between Mr. Kerry and Mr. Carter reflects the inherent conflict in Mr. Obama’s Syria policy.” – There is indeed a confusion in the US brain poisoned by war profiteers led by ziocons.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/05/12/selective-intelligence
http://davidswanson.org/node/756
Since Kerry has just asked Russia to ground Syrian jets and create no fly zones (wasn’t that always the goal?) I do not believe in any rift. Pentagon just provides necessary incidents in order to screw the Russians and Syrians in so called “diplomatic negotiatiations”. The alleged rift is a fairy tale. The White House and Pentagon work hand in glove.
Another give away that the attack on the Syrian troops was intentional was the involvement of other Coalition partners. Most of the partners have carried out very few missions in the past six months. The purpose of involving them was precisely to provide greater cover for the activities of the Americans in much the same way NATO has provided and continues to provide cover for the Empire’s other nefarious activities.
The attack on the Aid Convoy was a blatant false-flag designed to stifle any bally-hoo about the Deir attack (although the MSM did a good enough job on their own). It also neatly supports the no fly zone policy that the US have been trying to impose for the last 2 years amid its attempt to balkanise Syria. It frankly matters little whether Kerry is ‘in on it’. There are plenty of people in State Department who are (such as the 150 who signed the memo of dissent a few weeks back).
Regrettably as PCR has explained, the Russians have fallen into the US trap. In particular allowing the Turks to cross the border to create their enclaves was a grave error. Erdogan is as fully in cahoots with the US military as he ever was, whatever and whoever was behind the July coup.
Putin and Lavrov need to stand up and be counted. Remind the world that International law has been systematically violated through every single attack on Syrian Sovereign territory in the last 4 years; and tell the US and Israel and all the Coalition of the Willing that the next non-Syrian and Russian plane that violates Syrian airspace will be shot down – no ifs or buts. We are at that level of brinkmanship unfortunately but Russian and Syrian red lines need to be drawn Either that or accept the end of a unified Syrian state.
If moronic Americans are just going to sit on their fat asses, screaming ‘USA,USA,USA’ while our government destroys another sovereign nation that was NO threat to us, but one that Israel wanted smashed so they could steal more land and Wall Street bankers wanted bombed so they could make more money off the carnage, then we deserve the same fate as Iraq, Libya and now Syria. To be bombed into oblivion.
Look at the positive side, just think of all that fat Americans will be able to shed when there’s no food to buy in the local grocery store because it’s been bombed to smithereens.
if true, russia just got fucked over hard by a 12 inch dildo, in girth and length!
Did they bomb the Syrians to sabotage the cease fire? You bet. So, who bombed the UN aid convoy?
Good post, Anna!
Loved the video…very interesting!
Your best analogy from biology to the human society so far. A Jewel (anything to do with precious stones must be Jewish lol) wasp controlling the American cockroach using brain toxins (through MSM)!!!!!
We have a new symbol for the special relationship between Israel and US. My much poorer analogy was that US is a muscle whilst Israel is the brain of the New Roman Global Empire.
correction: the ziocons want to act in accordance with THEIR ideas only.
“We are at that level of brinkmanship unfortunately but Russian and Syrian red lines need to be drawn. Either that or accept the end of a unified Syrian state.”
Russians have been trying to prevent the flames of war. The DC arsonists have a different mission in mind.
US bombs SAA, while Russians hang back, to let Syrian government know that it is helpless without Russia.
Convoy gets attacked, Russian defense ministry releases ambiguous drone footage made by Russian assets, and US call for grounding of, and no fly zones for, Syrian (but not Russian) airforce. Makes perfect sense. Of course the UN has retracted its earlier statement that it was an “airstrike”.
It was not reported if the Russian and American delegates exchanged slices of Pizza over shots of Vodka in UN as they move a critical step closer into turning Syria into a protectorate of the Russian Federation.
Meanwhile back in UNZ, Mr. Whitney pushes the very “credible” story that the United States armed forces are acting contrary to the direction of the Commander-in-Chief of America’s armed forces.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/21/middleeast/syria-violence-ceasefire/
“wasp controlling the American cockroach ” – How to get rid of the wasp? Kill the cockroach!
This is an inspirational review for Samantha Power’ future performances.
In May 2013, one half of the famed Jewish investigative journalist “Bernstein and Woodward” team which helped break open the Watergate scandal of the 1970s, 69-year-old Carl Bernstein, told Joe Scarbrough at MSNBC that Jewish neocons pushed president Bush into the 2003 war on Iraq.
“This was an insane war that brought us low economically, morally. We went to war against a guy who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. It was a total pretext! It’s explicable and there you go to Cheney, there you go to Bush, there you go to Jewish neocons who wanted to remake the world (for Israel). Maybe I can say that because I’m Jewish,” said Bernstein. Watch the video below.
One cannot argue with Bernstein that only Jews can make such statements in the West. For example, Professor Melvin A. Goodman John Hopkins University), a former CIA analyst and author wrote in February 2013 that lies about Iraqi WMDs were fabricated by Lewis “Scooter” Libby and other Jewish neocons.
The 9-11 Commission member, Philip Zelikow, a Zionist Jew, told an audience at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002: “Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel. And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.”
Joshua Muravchik, a Jewish scholar at Israel advocacy groups WINEP and AEI, weote in American Jewish Committee’s mouthpiece, Commentary Magazine (September 2003): “The neoconservatives, it turns out, are also in large proportion Jewish- – and this, to their detractors, constitutes evidence of the ulterior motives that lurk behind the policies they espouse.”
Robert J. Ellisberg wrote in Zionconservative mouthpiece, Haffington Post (June 25, 2009): “The neocon wing of the Republican Party has rarely found a war it doesn’t love to start (finishing, optional), most especially, if they themselves don’t have to risk fighting it. And now, it seems like most conservative Republicans have their trigger fingers itching to start yet another Middle East war (against Iran).”
https://rehmat1.com/2013/07/07/carl-bernstein-jewish-neocons-started-us-iraq-war/
And so, confirming, the end of civilian control of our military. We are now a banana Republic. The military owns the White House and Congress long ago abandoned the notion of cutting the purse strings. It. Is. Over. We are owned.
this one for me is so perfect I almost wonder if the producers did it on purpose, but put a German style helmet on the ‘master’ in order to mask the all too real-life implications
but I like Anna’s analogy too
Developing sporadic reading comprehension issues, Anna, does not lend credibility to your commentary in this forum.
If you insist:
Your review of the current events in Syria could be greeted with satisfaction by Mrs. S. Power.
Just a minor detail: Russians are in Syria to protect their vital interests (you may want to consult a map to see the spread of liver-eaters re Russian borders) and Russians are in Syria on invitation from the legitimate government of Syria, whereas the US is in Syria uninvited.
Here is a much better explanation of what is going on in Syria: https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/assads-death-warrant/
“In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”
There is also an Israeli aspect: “A war which destabilizes Iran’s ally, Assad, would benefit Israeli interests.” http://www.juancole.com/2016/05/israel-golan-heights.html
“The UN documents showed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. The IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but the deception was broken when the UNDOF observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS [ISIL] fighters…” https://sputniknews.com/politics/20151125/1030760282/golan-heights-israeli-military-isil-oil.html
Obama was behind it. This was classic Obama: Make a “deal”, then renege on in such a way that he can’t be BLAMED for reneging on it. This is how Obama works. He always shifts the blame on to someone else no matter what happens.
The “deal” was made just to distract Russia while the US makes moves to advance their control of the situation.
The ridiculous part is that Russia continues to believe the US despite having been made a fool of multiple times. Allegedly the attack on the Deir Ezzor base only stopped when Russia had an S-300 radar “paint” the attacking planes. That was a proper response to the situation.
Next time, Russia should shoot down the planes without bothering to call an “operations center” where no American officer was “available” to take the call.
If the US wants to go right up to the point of WWIII with Russia, then Russia should be willing to do the same.
Actually, here is an updated (and excellent) analysis of current events in Syria: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/09/us-special-forces-sabotage-white-house-policy-gone-disastrously-wrong-with-covert-ops-in-syria-ttg.html
“Nobody believes in it. You’re like, ‘Fuck this,’” a former Green Beret says of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian militias. “Everyone on the ground knows they are jihadis. No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort, and they know they are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘Fuck it, who cares?’” “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added.”
More: “Russia asks for formal UN investigation of convoy attack:”
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/09/httpswwwalmasdarnewscomarticlelavrov-russia-presented-evidence-aid-convoy-attack-now-wants-impartial-investigation.html
I would only append this to say Russia must be willing to do the same
Putin isn’t just protecting Syria and vital Russian interests, he’s protecting the free world, or what’s left of it
he’s protecting Americans in Kentucky and Wyoming and New Hampshire.. He’s protecting Germans and Hungarians and Moroccans. He’s protecting all of us who are in peril of the Orwellian dystopia they have planned for the planet. The forces destabilizing Syria today are as evil as evil gets. Trust me.
also I don’t think Obama was behind anything. That little bitch just signed a 38 billion dollar tribute to a country run by a man that openly despises him, and humiliates him in his own house. Bibi comes to the US and publically pisses in Obama’s face, and Obama sends him billions of dollars by way of apology for getting in Bibi’s way while he was relieving himself.
I suspect the decision to bomb those guys came from some guys like Kissinger and Israeli generals and policy types like the boyz at the CFR and PNAC and other netherworld scum
“…only Jews can make such statements…”
NO. Not even Jews can make those statements any longer.
Miko Peled was scheduled to speak at Princeton U. on Tues, 20 Sept., but the Princeton Committee on Palestine cancelled his talk at the last minute because of a Tweet. In response to the 10-year MOU to give Israel $38 Billion, he wrote,
“Then theyr surprised Jews have reputation 4being sleazy thieves. #apartheidisrael doesn’t need or deserve these $$”
Then JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace) national chair Rebecca Vilkomerson tweeted,
“Princeton group did right thing cancelling @mikopeled talk b/c of his tweets-no place 4 antisemitism in our movement.”
NO QUESTION Vilkomerson knows Miko and his work, and she jumped at the chance to ostracize him. His sin, of course, is effectively debunking Israel’s fraudulent foundational myths. His authenticity makes him a real threat.
BTW, this is the same punitive treatment that JVP gave to Alison Weir. It will be interesting to see how Miko ( and JVP rank and file) deals with this shunning.
Yes, the suggestion was clear. What remains to be made clear by you is why she would be “satisfied” with an analysis that asserts the covert collusion between the various assertive powers to rob Syria of any possibility for regaining meaningful sovereignty.
Ever.
Russian interests, sure, but certainly not their allies.
But let’s pull up the map of so-called “Middle East” and we’ll refer to this as reference:
First off, just to be clear, everybody and their mommy knows about the 2 proposed pipeline deals, involving the South Pars gas field in the Persian Gulf. And yes, it is true that president Assad was pressured by Russians to reject the Qatari proposal. And yes, that clearly annoyed a few interested parties.
Secondly, the above mentioned people and their mommy are also aware that the United States of America, contrary to her own national interests, has been rather strangely squandering the strategic and global fruits of the West’s (supposed) total victory over USSR, and in the span of less than 20 years has gone from moral victory and unchallenged supremacy to becoming a borderline pariah nation, to the point that the president of a former colony and subject nation openly hurls vulgarities at the head of state of this nation.
The United States has been, indeed, acting very strangely. It is true, that on the surface, the US has been on a rampage. But strangely enough, the fact that there are multiple, distinct, flags fluttering in these war zones, and the US is not acting alone. Poodles, all, Anna?
Now we can start studying the above map.
It is clear that Iran is part of the strategic equation here.
Now, referring to the above map, you and I will play air marshall and plan the route of “Islamic Republic” of Iran’s war planes westward in case of a, God forbid, hot conflict between Iran and the “Jewish State”.
Would you have your planes go fly over the sands of Arabia? Probably not a good idea. Or, how about over Iraq and then a little turn and over Jordan? I don’t think that would be prudent.
You would, wouldn’t you Anna, fly straight from “Hamadan” over Iraq and the Syria and then turn south-west. Friendly skies, right Anna?
http://observer.com/2016/08/russia-hints-it-might-hide-nukes-in-syria/
It is always interesting that when a tidbit of “news” is to be announced for those who monitor everything (but not intended for mass consumption) is found in “interesting” publications. Here we have the Zionist controlled Observer of NY mentioning in passing the following very interesting little fact:
Forever and ever, Anna. For free. Right on the coast so Syrians can forget about ever having a second thought and trying to blockade the Russians out of Syrian territory.
And then we have American military commenting that this base affords “area denial” and “effective no fly zone” capabilities to the Russian Federation. Of course the general in question was saying this in context of NATO.
So now basically, Russia has veto power over any possible muscle flexing by either the Syrians or the Iranians, in context of a, God forbid, war between these nations.
(I’m pretty sure the readers of Observer, given their exceptionally high “IQ”, did not read the above article and say “Oy Vey!”, but rather “Mazeltov!”):
But, oh you say, Russia would never let the bad bad West run over effectively defenseless “MENA” nations.
Here is n article from
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The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a “Pipeline War”
Wednesday, 21 September 2016 00:00
By Gareth Porter, Truthout |
Interesting dissection of a crisis .
Tell us what you think.
Yes, this image is close to perfect for the special relationship: not only does the muscle have no brain then not even eyes, just pure killer muscle.
The title is correct. But the content is not. The whole article on Syria that does not mention Israel. This Gareth Porter must be afflicted by a very peculiar form of blindness.
utu, I have a theory on this, or at least a suspicion. Gareth’s book Manufactured Crisis is about the [fabricated] “Iranian laptop” which was used by Israel and U.S. to accuse Iran of making nuclear weapons. Gareth’s book suggests that the laptop was planted by Mossad.
So Gareth isn’t blind, and he’s aware of PNAC, Yinon Plan, etc. Even though he’s cautious to not appear biased and to have supporting evidence, don’t you wonder if he came under some pressure after the book?
Putin’s also the only thing standing between Al Nusra, Al Queda, and ISIS, and downtown Tel Aviv.
yes, except that I’d prefer to interpret the iron helmet over his brain and eyes as symbolic to the very real iron dome of information that’s encased over the brains and eyes of Americans (and Westerners in general).
You could even imagine one of those new virtual reality head sets all fitted on the inside, with the headphones and all.
Broadcasting an entire virtual reality where America is being attacked by Russia and Assad, and Obama and our military are trying to protect our freedoms
IDK
All those head slicers are sent to Israeli hospitals if they ever need medical care. They don’t even hide the fact.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html
ISIS are really little more than Israeli mercs, paid for my the US taxpayer to do a Gadhafi on Assad so Israel can steal the Syrian territory they currently occupy
Yes, but we have to recognise that many of those “…Americans in Kentucky and Wyoming and New Hampshire… Germans and Hungarians…”, the people on the diet of blue pills (and they are not Viagra), believe that Putin is THE ENEMY, the evil incarnate instead of being their last chance to retain any vestige of freedom from the new master bankster race of the World.
“And then we have American military commenting that this base [Khmeimim] affords “area denial” and “effective no fly zone” capabilities to the Russian Federation. Of course the general in question was saying this in context of NATO.
So now basically, Russia has veto power over any possible muscle flexing by either the Syrians or the Iranians, in context of a, God forbid, war between these nations.”
So you are trying to convince UNZ readers that a single Russian base in the Middle East is a sign of Russian omnipotent and malignant power in Syria. — No, I do not buy this opinion. I also do not appreciate your vicious hatred towards Iran and Iranians. Iranians — the progeny of a noble ancient civilization that made a considerable contribution to the world civilization — are not in possession of a nuclear arsenal (actually, Iran has proposed a nuclear-free Middle East: http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/12/13/a-nuclear-free-zone-in-the-middle-east/). Iran-firsters do not have a powerful foreign agent similar to AIPAC that pressures the US government and directs the US might towards Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Iran in the ME and towards Ukraine in East Europe. Iran does not have Lebensraum aspirations of the Oded Yinon plan (we can currently see the plan’s bloody implementation). And Iranians are not involved in extrajudicial killings that Mossad and CIA practice ad libitum.
As for “meaningful sovereignty,” is this your expression includes certain dissatisfaction with the legitimate government of Assad and with the pre-2011 borders of sovereign Syria?
This quote testifies for the institutionalized policy of war crimes against Syria: “Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad… In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”(https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/assads-death-warrant/)
Could you present any evidence of Russian Federation initiating and fomenting any conflict in the Middle East, Europe… ? Please mind that the USSR has dissolved bloodlessly more than 25 years ago. Meanwhile, look at Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine — and do not forget to contemplate on the trashed boulevards of the large and small cities of Europe that is playing today for her joining the US criminal enterprise in the Middle East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgbFDaOAt0
Video Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQwWFRYaMYA
Video Link
It is interesting to watch the pipeline proposals of recent years are being used to obscure the plannings and machinations of much earlier origin for this war in Syria. America becomes a weak lackey being pulled by immoral interest groups in the eyes of Americans. Quite a few lines of hatred -current and latent for future uses – are being built here by weak America, by its non -state -run media who garners profit from wars .
Dugin talks business: http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-the-third-world-war-has-never-been-so-close-us-preparing-to-wage-war-on-russia-how-will-russia-respond/5546914
“This strike was extremely important for ISIS militants, whom the US is informally advising and arming while supposedly fighting them. This crossed the line. Bombing Syrian soldiers is one thing, but this means declaring war not only against Syria, but also Russia, which is fighting in Syria on Assad’s side. And this means that we have reached a climax.” …. Sigh.
Would not it be grand to put Ashton Carter and Chelsea Clinton into trenches in Syria, to participate in the Syrian enterprise directly and along with the US-supported moderate jihadi?
The context: ““US Special Forces sabotage White House policy gone disastrously wrong with covert ops in Syria” – TTG:” http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/09/us-special-forces-sabotage-white-house-policy-gone-disastrously-wrong-with-covert-ops-in-syria-ttg.html
Yes
Obama is responsible. He appointed the warmomgers, then he plays reluctant and diplomatic
which is all part of the charade.
Obama should have been impeached over Libya.
could someone tell me the official reason we are fucking over syria? what is so bad that we must get rid of assad and creating 3+ million refugees and counting?
the made up excuse for iraq was wmd. what is the made up reason for toppling syria/assad?
I am not selling an opinion. I’ve detected signs of intelligence in this forum and the intended readers can reach their own conclusion.
But you know Anna (or is it Анна?) I think you may have something regarding Russian armaments being бесполезный. (That’s Russian for useless, apparently.)
According to president Assad, the recent air attack on SAA went on for a full hour. 60 minutes, 3600 seconds. Maybe you are right, maybe it is just a base full of crapware.
(Almaz has such nice CGI graphics where they shoot down “enemy” aircract and missiles — that look awfully like American airforce’s stuff — with ease. Its on youtube, check it out.)
Did you know Iran is a feminine name? Its the name of the sister of Iraj, son of Fereydoon, whose treacherous brothers attacked and killed him! Some people think Iran means Land of Aryans, Aryan meaning Noble People, but that is not the case.
I personally can not stand treacherous people.
Iran is an amazing nation, and Iranian civilization definitely is sublime and Iranians some of the warmest and friendliest people on this planet. I personally love it. Glad to see you appreciate them too! I think Iran and America are natural alies, and Iranians and Americans are very much on the same wavelength on quite a lot of things.
Now, please point out where I said anything against Iran, Iranians, or made any reference to nuclear weapons!
Not having a foreign power hold on to a strategic chunk of your nation, with a military base full of their eavesdropping EW and other crapware.
Clear enough, or do I need to break out the crayons and draw you a diagram?
(I hope this has been instructive, thoughtful UNZ.com readers …)
Point taken bro – the Muslim nations need to get their act in gear and figure out this nonsense. Every other government has their own ulterior motives – but that’s just par for the course, few governments ever do things just out of the goodness in their hearts, so Russia can’t really be singled out in this regard. But, the Muslim world is a bleeding mess right now so the various factions will take up suzerainty with those who will give them succor and protection.
Divided we fall…or…better stated:
“And obey God, and His Messenger, and do not quarrel among one another, and thus lose heart, and your power depart; and be patient! Surely God is with the patient.” 8:46
Salaam.
Mr. Whitney.
I have long respected your commentary on many points at times.
To suggest that rogue elements in the military sabotaged the good intentions of Black Jesus (a.k.a. Obamah, P.B.U.H.) in the Syrian ceasefire is blatant nonsense.
It was all just a ploy to gain time to resupply the jihadhi loons.
Israel’s Project Mayhem remains the prime and only real goal for yonr enslaved government.
What did the Israel first crew do to Alison Weir? She is one of my favorite historians and the very best British historian in the last 300 years.
Why make up all these theories? Israel had planes shot down days before by Syria. Israel called the Pentagram and demanded retaliation for the loss of the planes. That’s it. None of this other garbage being spun here had anything to do with it. The greater Israel agenda is rolling on until it isn’t. Occam’s Razor is the only answer.
We’re not talking of the same Alison Weir. Mine is the (American) author of “Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel” and the principal of the org. and website “If Americans Knew” http://ifamericansknew.org/about_us/
About a year ago the leadership of JVP denounced Weir for being interviewed on a right wing radio show and “not sufficiently criticizing the host” for perceived (by JVP) anti-Semitism. Leadership of “End the Occupation” followed suit. This caused a furor in the community since many rank and file support Weir in her work and approve of her speaking to any and all Americans.
Whether JVP et al are actually Israel firsters, or “Anti-Zionist Zionists” is a question I’ve been wanting to ignore, but they seem determined to make it an issue.
Yesterday the head of the UK charity Save The Children, Helle Thorning Schmidt, who happens to be a recent Danish PM (and wife of a Brit Labour MP), called on BBC radio for the US to declare a no-fly zone in Syria – which is tantamount to calling for a war between the US and Russia/Syria/Iran.
I think the following by MoA, – a retired German Army officer if memory serves – summarizes well what this new US war crime is about:
Why should ZUSA care so much about blocking the land connection of the ‘Shia crescent’?
Why, bc of Zionism & Israel, that is why.
ZUSA is in fact a Jewish-Zionist Colony.
In 2013, israeli media reported, re Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, lifting any doubts about who really wants Assad to go:
http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328
Of course that those Al-Ciada ‘bad’ guys are not really bad guys at all, from Israels POV.
Anyone noticed how the various Wahhabi/Salafi gangs, Nusra & ISIS included, have never attacked Israel, only its enemies? No, folks, that is not a fucking coincidence.
William Engdahl wrote, re Israels military cooperation with Nusra(al-Ciada in Syria) and ISIS:
Since you mention DIA and Syria, there was interesting article by Seymour Hersh
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military#onepass
that DIA under Gen. Dempsey in opposition to CIA and Obama administration was keeping open communication channels with Assad via Berlin, Tel Aviv and Moscow and even they sabotaged CIA’s weapon supplies for rebels (Al Nusra) via Turkey to show their good will and intention.
Duh…
A credible explanation can be found at: landdestroyer.BlogSpot.com