how about we stop pandering to moderates Steve? The entire reason why Trump lost 2020 (if the polls are to be believed) is because he lost some of the share of the white vote that he had in 2016. How? By pandering to Blacks and Minorities. Remember the Platinum plan. And in no lesser degree due to being a huge disappointment. The reason why those more extreme ring wing candidates didn’t win was because their campaign was disjointed, some were even anti trump. but more importantly they received NO support from the republican party, specially when it comes to the logistics of running a campaign. they were mostly amateurs

The key here is the demographic shift and the Republicans wanted that demographic shift more and for longer than the Democrats. The last time the Republicans had a chance was just before they decided to tolerate vote fraud and open borders. It’s not just a policy disagreement, it’s the death of the party.

We don’t want to vote for him out of pity (what the hell, man?), we want to fix clownworld, and he’s the only guy with both a chance and a focus of trying (before this campaign he was the only one talking about it). The alternative is that, instead of turning into Mexico with worse weather, we become something like Cuba, as is already happening to Trump and the dupes of the January 6th fed op, and as will happen to more people soon. I don’t rape to be normal in this country, and, until the demographic shift is dealt with, rape will become normal in my generation. South Africa the model, Brazil the model.

It’s not like Trump is a fresh face who might win over some swing voters with his novel perspectives

In-party, the only perspectives worth having are his. The two distant frontrunners who have been performing far better than the inexplicable losers way back there are doing well because they are “Trump, but more cautious and better-spoken.” Outside of the party, the Democrat’s best hope (which they will not be allowed to choose) is Kennedy, who is essentially a more polite Trump equivalent.
The elites have been running things so badly that the only serious candidate (for human voters: the internet’s not the only dead community) is a nominal outsider.

Maybe Trump can lead a national divorce movement after he loses?

This makes Republican voters feel sorry for Trump and want to nominate him for a third run and a second defeat.

Nobody in his right mind feels sorry for Trump. I’m a DeSantis supporter, but the fact is, this Banana Republic behavior by Potomac Regime and all level government officials has got me feeling like this:

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As for the voting, these people aren’t really that creative, so it sounds like they want to rehash enough of the Flu Manchu PanicFest so they can justify 10’s of millions of mail-in ballots to be sent out, as to where they go, nobody knows …

This makes Republican voters feel sorry for Trump and want to nominate him for a third run and a second defeat.

Nobody in his right mind feels sorry for Trump. I’m a DeSantis supporter, but the fact is, this Banana Republic behavior by Potomac Regime and all level government officials has got me feeling like this:

As for the voting, these people aren’t really that creative, so it sounds like they want to rehash enough of the Flu Manchu PanicFest so they can justify 10’s of millions of mail-in ballots to be sent out, as to where they go, nobody knows …

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It’s not like Trump has done anything since November 3, 2020 to broaden his appeal.

But democrats have done an unprecedented number of things to enrage people.

It’s not that Republicans love Trump. It’s that they have been continually attacked so as to absolutely hate Democrat’s guts. So many businesses destroyed. So many communities irreversible trashed. So much absolutely unnecessary pain and suffering here and around the world generated by those wretched servile cultists.

Trump is incidental to that. He is a rock with which to strike your homicidal maniac attacker. It has little to do with the victim’s love or devotion to rocks.

Remember, he was first elected because so many collectively hated the Clinton’s guts, and couldn’t conceive of enduring 4 years of her untreated mental illness, ands well as reintroducing her psychopathic spouse back into the White House yet again.

I think you don’t see how far gone this political system has gotten, Mr. Sailer. This indictment/arrest of Trump, and previously, the jailing of thousands of J6 protesters/rioter, many without trial, and previously, the very obvious cheating in the election, has accelerated the feeling in millions of Americans that we aren’t voting our way out of anything.

The ctrl-left is destroying the remaining rule of law in this country before our eyes. We know it’s the Potomac Regime v America at this point, and the Regime is running the political show. Voting for a man under indictment or in jail is, as the meme* goes, the way to show that, at the national level at least, this is all a farce.

In the meantime, the showman Donald Trump is greatly enjoying the publicity, as that’s more important to him than anything, even the country, IMO.

Finally, thanks to commenter Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., we can see that Charlie Brown wins in the end … but is it too late to matter?

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* I hope you can delete the 1st one with the bad link.

If the Democrats are smart, they’ll have Biden pardon Trump (unless this is somehow not possible, as I’ve heard) and then say that Biden is such a great guy for letting a candidate who deserves to be in prison have another chance at the White House. If Trump then wins the GOP nomination, he goes in as the most wounded candidate to win a party’s nomination in living memory, perhaps in all of American history. If we nominate someone else instead, the Democrats will gloat about how they tricked us into nominating a candidate we don’t really like, and Republican voters will be discouraged while Democrats will be overcome with joy at their first opportunity to seize power in a Third World America.

Is Biden even going to campaign? I can see him saying that he’s too busy running the country to bother with a presidential campaign and that anyone who does campaign is just trying to distract the public. I also want to mention that it’s possible the Dems are deliberately sticking with Biden, whom even supporters admit is a rather weak candidate, to make clear to China and other foreign powers that the Democrats have such a firm grasp on power that they can win an election with any candidate they choose, and that our elections are just for show.

I want Trump to give up and accept life in prison so that the voting public will realize we no longer live in a democracy. Then it doesn’t matter who wins the Republican nomination …. either way, the election will be exposed as an obvious sham, and Republicans will no longer treat any defeat as legitimate.

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Regarding the prospect of Democratic meddling … I’m skeptical. The strategy makes perfect sense if we assume that most far-right voters will vote GOP no matter who the candidate is, and that moderate GOP candidates will win the independent vote and even some Democrats. Is that really true anymore? It seems so often that the most moderate GOP candidate is among the weakest candidates in the race. Did anyone really think Kasich would have won the presidency in 2016, for example, or was that just a Democratic ploy to fool us into nominating someone who would almost certainly lose, and then tell us we lost because we didn’t nominate someone even further left than Kasich?

Good post as always, thanks. I could write a thousand more words but I would be going quite far off topic.

Even from thousands of miles away it is clear the Democrats are on to a loser against Trump, hence their efforts to keep him off the ballot. Same with covid, they thought tanking the economy would do it, but Trump was still ahead, so they fortified the election instead.

Trump won easily last time, and with the disastrous foreign and economic record of the ‘Biden’ administration they look to be in even more trouble now. A lot of buyers remorse from the few swing voters who actually did genuinely cast their ballots for Biden.

If I was in their shoes I would be desperate too, hence the persecution. Can they really get away with such blatant election rigging again, will Trump be more competent if he wins, will he be out for vengeance, will the economic and social environment deteriorate even more before the election?

I saw even one of the more ridiculous pro Democrat polls having Trump ahead by two in Pennsylvania the other day, so really about seven ahead. They are panicking, no one else flips the Rust Belt like Trump can.

I’m a DeSantis supporter

Yes, DeSantis! Yay DeSantis! The prospect of trillions more for global neo-con wars and total Israel-fellating foreign policy does sound so appealing and makes me wish I could go out and vote for DeSantis today!

Seems the Charlie Brown strategy was nominating McCain and Romney: Democrat party approved insiders who would play the game.

Trump at least moved the needle a little bit.

Nothing will change right now because too much of the voting public thinks we can keep kicking the can down the road as far as dealing with our fiscal problems. The federal government will have to go bankrupt. There will be a Great Depression II which will be twice as long and twice as deep as the first Great Depression. All our elites will become discredited by this as everyone slowly realizes they were the ones who led us into this.

It will be something like the collapse in belief in Marxism last century as the two major adopters of it, China and the Soviet Union, failed to make life better for their people. It will be like the collapse in faith in the Roman Catholic church which had leant its support to various monarchs, who had brought nothing but never-ending wars and poverty to their countries. This was then followed by the 18th century Enlightenment. What all the failed political philosophies have in common is they demonstrate a collectivist mindset and are hostile to freedom and individual rights.

the very obvious cheating in the election

I look forward to Trump presenting actual evidence of the supposed cheating in court.

“It’s not that Republicans love Trump.”

Speak for yourself. Millions of Republicans regard him as the Second Coming or close to it.

“The prospect of trillions more for global neo-con wars and total Israel-fellating foreign policy does sound so appealing and makes me wish I could go out and vote for DeSantis today!”

What was Trump’s policy on Israel again? Will we get another four years of him spouting off about how he moved the capital to Jerusalem?

Which poll? Could you provide a link, please? Thanks.

Steve really seems to dislike Trump (though he doesn’t talk about him much.)

It’s weird because, after all these years, we finally get someone who is halfway (or one-tenth of the way) towards what we really need. But because he is crude and a bit ridiculous, he’s rejected by a lot of people who should support him.

And no, the Democrats are not prosecuting him in order to cleverly get him to win the primary. They are prosecuting him because they are evil psychopaths.

Likely no. A critical mass of Republican politicians in any given venue are careerists and / or donor servants. These types generate no reform initiatives and usually have sufficient numbers to sabotage any efforts at repairing matters. Appended to these characters are men without chests like Mike Pence.

Can Republicans Stop Playing Charlie Brown?

No.

Steve Sailer: Surely the Democrats won’t behave like this if we just abandon this Trump guy.
Steve, we elected Trump because of Democrat behavior. Democrats will stop behaving like this when we punish them, not when we reward them.

Screw you. They all kiss Israeli ass. I support DeSantis because he actually fights and wins on the most important issue – illegal immigration. That alone would be enough, but it’s not all he’s done in Florida. In the meantime, Trump is a bullshitter. He’s our bullshitter, but he’s a bullshitter nonetheless. As for a 2nd term, I don’t think he’s learned a thing.

The difference between you and I on our views is that you are sucked in by hype, while I take the time to SEE what these people get done. Let Ken Cuccinelli, who worked for Trump 20 months, explain the difference. Only the 1st 8 or 10 minutes of this interview will suffice:

Learn something here – Trump v DeSantis:

Round 1 – Personalities
Round 2 – Immunity to Kung Flu Panic
Round 3 – Immigration Invasion – – – See here.
Round 4 – Tag Team?
Addendum – David Cole article
Round 5 – The Ukraine/Russia War(mongering)
Round 6 – Quantity of Hatred Generated
Round 7 – Richard Hanania Substack post
Round 8 – Birthright Citizenship
Round 9 – Ken Cuccinelli Interview (with discussion on the video above.

Thank you, commenter Adam Smith, for hosting this video on your channel! I did a search first, with both guys from the video’s names AND “Adam Smith Channel”, and youtube still can’t seem to find it. As the browser windows often say “Hmmm, we are having some trouble…”

I think you don’t see how far gone this political system has gotten, Mr. Sailer. This indictment/arrest of Trump, and previously, the jailing of thousands of J6 protesters/rioter, many without trial, and previously, the very obvious cheating in the election, has accelerated the feeling in millions of Americans that we aren’t voting our way out of anything.

Steve doesn’t seem to feel any affinity with core Americans, with heritage Americans. He seems to loathe them.

The Neocons hate Trump with an uniquely insane passion for a reason.

Fixing Clownworld means a coup, and Trump just isn’t capable of pulling that off. He has terrible judgement (COVID) and makes terrible choices in personnel (Barr, Fauci, Dr Oz). He is so scatterbrained and loud-mouthed that his big plans (immigration, trade, blue-collar jobs) fail bigly. Instead, he grifts people for crap like Trump trading cards and donations to pay his legal bills. At least one of his legal issues will land him in prison for a good long time.

Don’t get me wrong. I want Clownworld overthrown. Trump just isn’t the man to do it. He’s a Madero figure. He might trigger a revolution, but he will not finish one. He’s not a serious threat. Should he somehow win the RNC primary, his lieutenant Rona McDaniel place Nikki Haley or Tim Scott at the head of the ballot. Joe Biden will cruise to victory. Trump will die alone in a dark, tiny cell like so many of his supporters from January 6th that he has abandoned.

The real problem is not the voting base or the strategists, it’s that too much of the country is not swayed by America First, pro-Citizen policies. As long as that’s the case, the Democrats (the more cynical branch of the Washington Uniparty) can keep employing “heads I win, tails you lose” strategies like the one Steve mentions. Yes, they can manipulate Republicans into nominating Trump again, but what’s the alternative? Do you think deSantis with his mega-donor base and establishment advisors would really crack down on immigration? Ha!

I just looked over my Peak Stupidity post (Round 7) on a Richard Hanania article.

1) If you think Richard Hanania is a smart guy, read this, and your mind will be changed. (I mean, just read HIS stuff, if nothing else!). He knows squat about what’s going on with the American people, Trump and lots else.

2) I found that I used the Charlie Brown kicking the football deal as an example too. However, it was not in the same way about voting for Trump again because it’ll be like (or worse than) ’20. My point was if Americans think that Trump will actually come through on all he says, THIS TIME, they are a bunch of Charlie Browns:

Of course it’s about issues, THOSE issues you just mentioned, and more! There’s a deep personal connection because we finally found a politician who actually cares about Americans and those issues, and we’d hoped he would do something about them. Some still hope that. Most of them are deluded named Charlie Brown and see Donald Trump as their very own Lucy.

Also, on the differences between these two:

Ron DeSantis is smarter than Donald Trump. Instead of letting the Lyin’ Press make accusations that he’d have to waste hours and days refuting, on and on, he might have a plan, as I have suggested, to change the press. Talk to the non-Regime-adjacent press. Invite unbiased journalists to the press conferences. That takes something called “a plan”. Trump has no idea what this “plan” thing is.

3) I find typos even years later.

My post on the Ken C. interview is Round 9.

If you read the pastiche that Hanania did of other writers on the right, you’ll see that he’s not dumb as in untalented. He’s dumb as in failed to escape being a member of his generation and to escape the interests and concerns of the class he strives to be part of. He doesn’t really understand this about himself, which is why his response to Curtis Yarvin failed to actually respond to Curtis Yarvin. I suspect that within his lifetime, he’s going to discover history has passed him by.

This post is pretty hilarious. Steve will twist his mind into knots to avoid the simple truth that they hate us and want us dead.

The main difference would be that the demographics have shifted even more in Biden’s favor.

The other main difference that is probably just as important is the “Not Trump again” Ann Coulter populist voters.

They hate Trump with a passion and are perhaps 10 – 20% of previous Trump voters. Most who will not vote for Trump again under any circumstances because they view him as an incompetent toxic turd floating in the political punch bowl. If Trump is the Republican candidate in 2024 those voters will either not vote or vote 3rd party.

Stick a fork in Trump – because he’s cooked.

Stick a fork in America – because it’s cooked.

Two points:

First, the Republican leadership, representative of America’s entire political class really, is stupid, evil or both. The GOP could take its primaries out of the public election system and have delegates from the States’ legislatures nominate in convention, like an actual democratic republic instead of a Progressive Era relic. Presumably then, the sagacious GOP leadership could pick their Marcus Aurelius instead of Trump the Vulgar. They won’t accomplish even this, because they’re obtuse suburban goobers. And even if they did they’d nominate another suburban goober who promises accelerated depreciation schedules and expanding intellectual property rights for the merchant class that hates them and mocks their values. And protecting everybody’s borders except our own.

Second, we don’t need a Marcus Aurelius or even a Nikki Haley and her winning platform of raising the retirement age and aid to Ukraine; we need a sonuvabich who hates our enemies. And we need that goddam border SHUT. Honestly, we need someone way more ruthless and ticked-off than Trump. But I don’t think we’ll find him because really smart, effective people don’t go into politics anymore.

Of course, this is all academic. Twenty-eight States effectively don’t require ID and they are already ginning up another panicdemic to justify the ballot harvesting and mail-in voting.

Democrats figured out that all they have to do to rig the 2024 Republican primary is to keep indicting Trump. This makes Republican voters feel sorry for Trump and want to nominate him for a third run and a second defeat.

It’s not like Trump is a fresh face who might win over some swing voters with his novel perspectives. No, everybody has long ago made up their minds on Trump, yeah or nay, so all that would happen is just re-running 2020 with the same two candidates, both four years older and worse. The main difference would be that the demographics have shifted even more in Biden’s favor.

It’s not like Trump has done anything since November 3, 2020 to broaden his appeal.

I disagree that nothing has changed, Trump hasn’t changed (Nor his poor record at keeping his promises in office other than not starting a neocon war which is a big deal but the biggest plank with voters) but the political context has. You may remember a war that has killed over 500k people and had a big economic effect on the West from misguided sanctions that have hurt the West more than Russia (Granted they are they people from a poor country without a great history of ethnic immigration to the US, so nobody really cares especially since 90% of them were men in military uniforms and many in Russian ones.) that it has taken a while for ordinary people to realise wouldn’t have happened without a Biden White House. They’re beginning to realise how nuts it is and how the State Department only cares about feeding Ukrainian blood and soil into the Russian military meat grinder to do as much potential damage to it as possible and to buy time as they desperate try to think of a way to get out of this on top without having to try and win a nuclear war with Russia after their spectacular fuckup overreach.

Additionally Biden has been more incompetent and the people around him more venial than expected.

It’s like I keep saying about France. Macron is the true “Last Man” of the Fifth French Republic. The political establishment has no alternative to him, he’s it. He’s all they have, their last argument against the “far” left and “far” right. And he has been an utterly pointless and pathetic figure, not able in any way to argue let alone attempt to fix any of France’s current crises because those cries are the social, economic and political pollution of the policies he not only champions but is, so far, the most earnest supporter of in French political history. The French middle classes basically cried out “Give us a reason not to vote for a Le Pen!” and the French establishment answered, “We can’t but thanks for voting for Macron, we’ll put up your pension ages now we know we’re going down either way”. In essence Macron is the naked truth of the political establishment in France his time in office (Including his smash and grab of pushing pension ages up) have removed any reason for anyone in France, outside the parasitic elite to vote for anyone outside Le Pen or Mélenchon. That won’t stop all of them doing it, but you can see the big drop in his vote between the 2017 and 2022 elections. The big riots occurred in 2023 and we’ll see.

Similarly Biden is the best the US political establishment could muster. He wasn’t elected with great expectations but his tenure has been such a cluster fuck and disgrace that it has shocked even somebody as cynical as I am. The US is now at the closest it has ever been in terms of nuclear war, it continues to sit at the edge of this precipice (The falling off of which is, remember, not solely in it’s hands) in order to save face, do what damage it can to the Russian military (By the disgusting method of asking another country you’ve set up to fight this unwinnable war to send more conscripts to die) and to buy time as the neocons slowly psychologically come to terms with their overreach and fuckup in the Ukrainian steppe having lost US hegemony forever. (Sans “winning” an apocalyptic WW3 against a Sino-Russian alliance) While the loss of US military hegemony can onyl mean good things for ordinary Americans since there seems no likelihood of removing the neocon parasites which run the State Department, the loss of US hegemony has only come in the economic realm. Kicking Russia out of SWIFT has forced them and China to come up with an alternative financial system and basically starts the end of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

The series of economic and other crises, the principal element of which, starting a proxy war with Russia, was something Trump wouldn’t have done is dawning on people and even if it didn’t, Biden was, like Macron a naked revelation. There can be no hope of “hope and change” from the establishment politicians. This was the last chance to convince a bulk of the population to pretend Trump didn’t kill TINA (There Is No Alternative) and to continue voting for them. Well? Does any problem you have have a chance of being addressed by Biden? No, you need an angry anti-establishment type. As Steve has noted many times, Trump represented a massive outbreak of democracy, policies were being debated massively in a way they hadn’t been since Reagan brought neoliberalism to power. And after Trump? Crickets, how can an establishment neoliberal politician continue after Trump? They have no political agenda or purpose. Yeah that isn’t new, but Trump was up there providing a vivid example, why can’t other politicians argue against immigration? Against neocon wars? Against neoliberal trade deals? They’ve seen it, they’ve lived it, you can’t put that back in the box and pretend it didn’t happen.

And Trump is the best alternative there is, it’s shocking but it’s also true. There is, of course, another, RFK Jr. but I suspect the DNC will make sure he can’t get through and I don’t know if he could do well with a third party run.

But just like Macron has shown the lack of any hope to be had in the establishment, Biden has done so, but even more spectacularly. They’ve run out of politicians, they’ve run out of leaders, all they have are horrific managers like Macron, like Harris. Almost nobody with any purpose or human charisma has gone into politics in 40 years and it’s showing, we have the geriatric leadership still going because they have no suitable replacements shoving them aside.

Given that situation and given 4 years of Trump not being responsible for anything that is going wrong, I think he can win again. Maybe he is just a protest vote but they didn’t get the message the first time.

I get that, Jim. Yet, he hired John Bolton, and he helped move the Israeli capital. Oh, and he fired missiles at Syria. He forgot all that talk about ending NATO and even pulling out of the UN. (I know, the latter is muchhh too muchhh.)

No doubt, he’s been better than anyone else on that score, nonetheless.

However, what I think the Neocons and ctrl-left are really scared about regarding Trump is the bullshit he spouts. He actually does care about America and Americans. Whether he gets anything done or not (mostly not) of all the great things he says, people are hearing this in the tens of millions. They like what he says. THAT’S what the Neocons, ctrl-left, and Globalists are scared of.

Right, why would any of us vote for Nikki Haley or Tim Scott knowing we are going to get nothing from them and they are going to call us racist if we seek to advance our interests in even the slightest way? DeSantis may be slightly better, but is still influenced by the Bush people and is a horrible campaigner. He is certainly no lock to win against any Democrat even in the event fraud was eliminated.

I’m not so sure on that, N.A.. I view Trump as an incompetent toxic turd floating in the political punch bowl, but, barring DeSantis as a candidate, Trump’s got my vote.

Yes, Ann Coulter is a woman scorned, and we know how that goes …

Okay, so I have to ask again.

If not Trump then _______________.

Fill in the blank with someone who has a serious credible chance to be President on January 21, 2025, and don’t be a class clown about it.

It’s no different than when Ron Paul ran for president. He sucked up the most conservative and libertarian republicans. But when he doesn’t get the nod what to do with all energy and votes that propelled him so far? It’s a democrat win, win. Ron Paul, isn’t fringe but really just old school republican which is todays fringe, yesterdays deplorables. I think more people had read the Constitution during his campaign than ever heard of it in school. But of course he too was a racist, like Pat Buchanan was a racist. Anyone who talks about borders or NAFTA or GATT or Superhighways is and was racist. There is no coming back from it and the democrats and media are going to pound it home until everyone gets it right. Right down to literally attacking supporters.
Democrat supporters are just anti-republican, just like when Obama got to office, the entire antiwar movement just folded up and went away. Because it was never antiwar it was anti-republican. The new global communism of the democrats is well on it’s way. We never really stand as a beacon of freedom but as a doormat that changes to meet a global vision of the future. We change our country to stay in the world economy. In no short time at all the country went from telling Hillary to shove her healthcare plan to we can’t live without it. We don’t have diplomacy and free trade with nations we have integration with nations, which means Americans have to change. Change what we think and do. Change what we believe as true right down to our personal belief in God. Now we must accept that everyone is better and anyone can be president even foreigners.
Ukraine, aren’t they putting missiles and f-16s there anyway? Where’s the nightly news coverage of bombs raining down and the endless cries of what the republicans did? It’s all a farce.

Anyone here remember Agriprocessors and Postville, Iowa? That was the Hasidic Jewish family, the Rubashkins, that imported thousands of illegal immigrants into an Iowa community to work in their shitty kosher slaughterhouse. In 2010 Sholom Rubashkin was sentenced to 27 years in federal prison for fraud. Well Donald Trump pardoned the guy after he had served only seven years. What’s more, Trump didn’t do it on his way out of office, as so many presidents do – he did it less than one year into his presidency. It was a pardon he didn’t even feel any sense of shame about.

It was probably one of the longest sentences ever given to a businessman who was guilty of major immigration fraud (even though he wasn’t convicted of immigration fraud, per se), and Trump pardoned him. How flipping blind do you have to be to realize that Trump is as corrupt as the rest of them?

Another case: Trump’s Justice Department, just weeks before the 2020 elections, handed the Sackler family a settlement that would have allowed them to walk with over $10 billion they pulled out of Purdue as the company’s legal problems started to mount. The family that is most responsible for the opioid epidemic that has killed half a million Americans and devastated hundreds of white, blue collar communities across the country was being handed a deal that allowed them to keep every dime they earned from the crime, thanks to Trump’s Justice Department.

Moreover, Trump and his closest allies, the Kushners, are barely even Republican. Jared Kushner, whose father was convicted of tax evasion and witness tampering, is a lifelong Democrat. Kushner has made over 80 campaign contributions in his life. All but maybe five or six went to Democrats. Prior to about 2011, the majority of Trump’s campaign donations went to Democrats. Hell, Trump made at least two donations to Kamala Harris, the latest of which was in 2013. He’s contributed to Anthony Weiner, Charles Schumer, Andrew Cuomo, Frank Lautenberg, Bob Menendez, Charles Rangel, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, Bob Torricelli, Ted Kennedy, Patrick Kennedy, Katherine Kennedy Townshend, Mark Kennedy Shriver – ALL THE KENNEDYS!! – Tom Daschle, Charlie Crist (!!!!), Terry McAuliffe, Harry Reid, John McCain, and – yes – to Hillary Clinton. So Trump has literally donated to two people who appeared on the ballot against him.

He also donated to former Illinois Democratic governor Rod Blagojevich, who served eight years of a 14 year federal sentence… before he was pardoned by Donald Trump.

Everyone Republican presidential candidate is looking for a way to beat Trump. I have no idea how to do that, but a campaign video showing all of the checks Donald Trump has written to Democratic politicians and all of the scumbags he pardoned might do the trick. Why not run a commercial about the Rubashkin pardon in Iowa?

Trump supporters have this belief that no politician can be trusted, apart from Trump. In their minds, pretty much every Republican pol but Trump is an establishment shill who will stab real Republican voters in the back the minute they get the chance. The problem is if that’s the case, then the country is screwed no matter what. You can’t run this country without allies and supporters.

Trump had his chance. Overall he didn’t do an absolutely terrible job. He was infinitely better than Biden. The problem is that he can’t win. He’s incompetent, he’s a narcissist, he can’t tolerate dissent, and he can’t tolerate any subordinate who refuses to kiss his ass and pretend that he is sane.

But above all else…he will not win again. Biden is pretty damn unpopular, yet the Democrats still managed to do a pretty damn good job holding off the Republican wave in 2022. If Trump runs again, Biden will beat him. There is no reason whatsoever for us to lose to Biden.

White people are supporting Trump because he’s a waystation on the way to something else. Nobody knows what that will be, but there’s a pretty substantial loss in credibility among conservative Whites in the old institutions and norms they used to worship (military, CIA, FBI, elections are valid, etc.).

So, they are slowly working themselves toward something new.

I agree with what you’re saying, and I think this is a lot better than nothing:

“No doubt, he’s been better than anyone else on that score, nonetheless.”

I sincerely believe that we would not be in the situation with Ukraine/Russia that we are today if he was still president. As a Chicagoan, I debate with myself sometimes over what really is the most important issue, as far as I’m concerned, on an existential level–black crime or potential nuclear war with Russia? On the latter issue, I think is our best bet.

“He hasn’t learned a thing .” Exactly right .

Occasionally I’ve seen a segment or two of a Trump rally as of late . He stands there and repeats the same damn shit. Hunter is a crook and sleepy Joe , well he’s still sleepy .

I don’t care . Hunter is a criminal and so is daddy . So? They’re not going to jail ,period. Move on already .

I like the Indian dude myself , his message that is . If DeSantis would quit trying to tow the party line I believe he would crush anyone . The Indian is saying the right things, but he’s not our people .

Trump is running out of time to call a spade a spade . If any white candidate was saying what Vivek was saying msm would obliterate said candidate as a racist , well so what . It seems DeSantis is trying to avoid this ? Not really sure . No matter , at this point anyone is better than what we have .

The Deep State, the Powers that Be, whatever you call them, are punishing Trump as a surrogate for his voters. They can’t actually lock all of us up (yet) so they are going after him. The intended message is:

You don’t get what you want, ever! Now go back to paying your taxes, voting for our pre-selected candidates every two years and shut up.

But the notion that Trump will come back better than ever is a fantasy. Now he’s learned his lesson! He’ll take no prisoners this time!

What nonsense. He’ll be 78 next year. Do you know any 78 year old men who have turned over a new leaf?

Do we need once again to trot out his many failures? His neglect of illegal immigration, the primary issue he ran on. His awful personnel picks (McMaster, Bolton, Haley)? His administrations enthusiastic promotion of the homosexual agenda abroad (would Trump 2.0 be any different on WWT than Biden has been?). His kow-towing to the urban-thug demographic. His getting rolled by Paul Ryan and the GOP establishment. His getting rolled by the public-health mafia on the COVID pandemic. His getting rolled by his own daughter and son-in-law. And above all, his relentless, bombastic narcisissm: Me! Me! Me!

I’m not wild about the alternatives. DeSantis is an establishment GOP pol who was smart enough to turn with the populist wind. The primary attribute that distinguishes him from Trump is that he’s not a moron. Ramaswamy says some things I like, but then he would, wouldn’t he? He seems like a slippery character. And the rest of the field are collectively not worth a bucket of warm spit. Pence, Hutchinson? You might as well vote for a cardboard cutout of Ronald Reagan while mumbling “It’s Morning in America” to yourself. Christie is an establishment GOP creep. Nikki Haley is a loathesome, cynical political hack and Deep-State stooge; I despise her.

America? Yeah, well…………………….Dream another dream. This dream is over.

It’s not that Republicans love Trump. It’s that they have been continually attacked so as to absolutely hate Democrat’s guts. So many businesses destroyed. So many communities irreversible trashed. So much absolutely unnecessary pain and suffering here and around the world generated by those wretched servile cultists.

It’s true that Democratic governors and mayors (and some Republicans, like Larry Hogan of Maryland) inflicted a great deal of economic hardship on their own constituents with the COVID “lockdowns”. But it won’t matter. They’ll still vote for Joe Biden or even Patrick Bateman Gavin Newsome if he’s the guy with the D by his name. A lot of those people who were so affected would just blame Trump for it. A lot of people in this country have no idea how the government even works. They have no conception of the different powers (or lack thereof) that different government entities have. They may be aware of who their state’s governor is, but probably don’t know who their Representatives or Senators are. They only know who is the Great White Father in Washington and they will blame or credit him for all things. If there was a “lockdown” where they live and it harmed them they’ll blame Trump for it. If there wasn’t a “lockdown” where they live and they wanted one they’ll blame Trump for it.

The Republicans (better known in some circles as the Gay Old Pedobears) have but one purpose: to play Charlie Brown in “opposition” to their Donk comrades (who usually play Lucy). This has been going on for decades running. These “conservatives” failed to conserve anything whatsoever – not even the ladies’ room. They are but one side of a vast flim-flam/looting operation, the Washington Generals who serve as “opposition” to the Harlem Globetrotters (who wear the D-Jerseys).

There is nothing new or amazing or wondrous about this simple observation. George Wallace made note of it many decades ago by remarking that there is “not a dime’s worth of difference” between the ostensible factions. If enough had listened to him way back then (1968) it might have made some kind of difference. Way too late for that now. As for Trump, he’s an amazingly talented grifter. A con-man’s con-man who has raised the Art of the Con to a kind of perverse art-form. Truly a God-Emperor – of grift.

The only amazing thing about all this is how many total morons continue to believe there is somehow a difference between the two factions. Surely Doktor Fauci and all those hard-working folks in government have all of our best interests foremost in mind, right? As the late George Carlin mentioned in his parting appearance: It’s a club – and YOU ain’t in it! Voat moar harder, zeks – and enjoy your ride.

stop overthinking this. it doesn’t matter who the candidate is. please, please, employ Occam here. after telling us for decades to always use it.

why would Democrats allow any Republican to ever win a national election again? yes, they stole the election last time, and will every time from now on. Republicans have not done much to counteract this. Ann Coulter in particular embarrasses herself constantly on this topic. why on EARTH would they allow Ron DeSantis to become President?

that’s aside from the fact that they are all no-hopers. none of these people could ever generate enough interest on their own to overcome all the things which Democrats have lined up against them. these candidates all lose clean to zombie Biden. Democrats don’t have to cheat to beat them. they do have to cheat to beat Trump though. hence the nation destroying plan to derail him.

the ‘promote loser candidate’ tactic is for down ballot races. not for Presidential races. Democrats never have to worry about Presidential races ever again. again note that Republicans don’t even close their own primaries after decades of Democrat infiltrator subversion, a simple change they never make which shows conclusively that they aren’t serious.

Why hasn’t Trump promised to pardon all of the Jan 6 prisoners, including himself?

Why hasn’t any other Republican made the same promise?

Why hasn’t any Republican promised to do everything within his power to dismantle the intelligence agencies and the bureaucracy and force the budget to be balanced and to abandon the Ukraine war and to support only congressional candidates who promise to actually pursue the same since those powers ultimately lie with congress in the end?

This is why I am inclined to think we can’t vote our way out of this, especially if we’re not allowed to fairly vote at all anymore anyway. But if we were to vote our way out of this, it would have to be in support of radical policies and not just our favorite personality among a gaggle of those promising more of the same.

the actual story here is that Vivek Ramaswamy is a conman and a plant. he is using the very well established tactic of a brown person studying and adopting all the red meat talking points that Bubba wants to hear but GOP guys would never say out loud in public. we’ve seen these people over and over since 2015. he doesn’t mean any of it. who knows what he actually thinks or who actually is backing him financially, but he’s not your guy at all, whatsoever.

always, always use this rule – looks different, thinks different. if they don’t look like you, DON’T VOTE FOR THEM. my god, how are the voters this gullible by this point. that doesn’t mean it’s safe to vote for anybody who looks like you, but if they don’t look like you, they are automatically not your guy and can NEVER be trusted to be your national ruler.

there’s a reason you never heard of Vivek Ramaswamy until 6 months ago. that you have no idea where he comes from, but that wow, he really seems like a good option! that’s because he is a PROFESSIONAL conman, who is a GREAT talker and salesman. literally. he was a pharmaceutical sales CONMAN until recently. he has ZERO political record, and could SAY anything – it means nothing because he has no history to check on.

he and his family are engaging in all the classic cons that Professional Indian scammers run. that’s how you end up with brown people holding every office in the UK, people. yep, he has way more charisma and can talk circles around career politicians. and…that’s it. that’s what he’s been selected for. not being good at anything else.

Yeah, I don’t know why people get so worked up over presidential politics. We’re less than a decade away from the Dems having permanent control of the WH due to the increasing number of non-white voters.

Nothing can stop this. Even if the border was shut down tomorrow, it would happen.

Steve’s a nice guy, but he’s stuck in the 20th century, where ideas and campaign strategies still mattered. That’s a world where Steve thrives. A country where the various tribes negotiate for their slice of the pie isn’t much fun for Steve, so he avoids the reality.

Trump winning or losing isn’t going to change anything, unless his loss causes whites to get really pissed and begin to really abandon the system. Then, it might matter. But Steve is a system guy, so he would hate that, which is why he writes bizarre posts like this.

I appreciate your simple but effective point about Ukraine . They are indeed being thrown to the Russian meat grinder . Disgusting that our Gubmint uses millions of people for their power .

In the meantime all I see from the msm is Zel and company are driving those Russian pussies right back to the Kremlin . Right .

I can’t believe so many Americans eat this shit up . Freedom and democracy for Ukraine ! I was under the impression around 13 years ago they were heading into a better version of themselves , that is until SOMEONE decided in 2014 they needed a bit more of the good ol’ USA freedom fries .

Freedom? Where is this place where freedom exist ? I can’t even say my name on this website as I’ll have G Men at my door . Or worse , some leftist fucking psycho on my street hurling Molotov Cocktails at my house . If I dare point a weapon at them then my ass goes to prison while my home is burned to the ground . Well I do live in one of the reddest states , so maybe I’d have a chance ?

Ok, so who’s the man for the job?

Why hold primaries at all? They’re not a legal requirement. It seems to me that the old “smoke-filled room”, manned by a few insiders who genuinely want to win and aided by opinion polls as necessary, should be a superior strategy even in the absence of strategic voting like that described here.

Until the 1960s that’s actually how it worked (some states held primaries but those primaries didn’t decide enough delegates to prevail at the convention). What then happened was a misguided excess of zeal for “democracy”.

Proctor&Gamble doesn’t put new product ideas to a vote of the general public. Neither should a political party.

https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/charlie-brown-lucy-kick-the-football.jpeg

Actually, I think a more apt analogy would be Charlie Brown as the social conservative branch of the GOP and Lucy as the GOP establishment (Yes, I know, a Republican president finally got Roe overturned, but his election was a fluke and the establishment is pulling out all the stops to make sure that someone like him is never elected again. Also, since public opinion has shifted so far in favor of abortion rights since 1973, it hardly matters any longer in a practical sense if Roe is the law of the land or not; After the dust from Dobbs settles, the procedure will be legal in most states, at least during the early term.)

Anyway, enjoy this great montage of vintage Washington Generals’ plays while imagining the next grotesque sexual perversion that the GOP won’t stop our deep-state overlords from forcing us all to accept:

Steve’s a nice guy, but he’s stuck in the 20th century

All of my this, I have (effectively) said this before.

I attempted to [AGREE] but had run out of [AGREE]s.

How can anyone write an article on Operation Chaos without paying homage to the Late and Great Rush Limbaugh. He pioneered this (at least in modern times) against Hilary Clinton in 2008 and was successful. Though he did not expect there will be an economic collapse and with that Obama will trump McCain. But he did not despair; he immediately got to work and helped advance the powerful campaign of Obama as a Kenyan Muslim Marxist that helped the political novice Trump to join in and ride to success. In fact, the vitriol Limbaugh created during 2008 might have continued to help Trump in 2016. But I don’t think Limbaugh did any Operation Chaos in 2016; he might have felt 2008 didn’t work as planned. He simply supported Trump in 2016. Trump was so grateful for all the work Limbaugh did for him that he surprised him with a Presidential Medal of Freedom, an award given for the greatest of achievements.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/05/06/the_purpose_of_operation_chaos/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/04/politics/rush-limbaugh-donald-trump-medal-of-freedom/index.html

Republicans “worship” of the military and other institutions could have been because those institutions consisted of their family. It was their sons, husbands, cousins, uncles, daughters who made them what they were.

Not so much anymore. S/He takes GMT to whole new level.

Freedom and democracy must exist somewhere. We have been fighting and killing for it for > 200 years so it must be real. A sane nation wouldn’t do such a thing for an illusion [sarcasm alert].

I don’t know much about Vivek. But Jindal was a very conservative and highly successful governor of Louisiana. A competent Louisiana governor with no scandal is unprecedented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal#Political_positions

Haley was also a conservative and successful governor of South Carolina for two terms. Again, successful competent governor with no scandal is a rarity there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Nikki_Haley

Of course, Clarence Thomas is maddeningly conservative even for some conservatives.

So, let’s say, your theory has a few holes.

It’s not like the 2020 election wasn’t blatantly stolen in countless ways.

It’s not like Trump didn’t win all but one bell-weather states.

It’s not like Vegas odds at midnight didn’t give Trump a 95% probability of winning.

It’s not like Trump didn’t get 7 million more votes than icon Obamalama.

It’s not like this isn’t a preposterous, nonsensical article, Steve.

For heaven’s sakes – wake up and smell the coffee, do.

DeSantis is from the Romney-Bush faction of the GOP. No one likes those guys. Their economic policies are globalist/neoliberal. Their foreign policy, like the demonic Dems, is given over to the Kagan Kabal. Republicans are controlled opposition. The only solution to our woes is decentralization.

It’s not like you haven’t being conned into believing DeSantis isn’t a UniParty stooge, funded bybig money.

Congratulations for spotting that.

Yes, DeSantis! Yay DeSantis! The prospect of trillions more for global neo-con wars and total Israel-fellating foreign policy does sound so appealing and makes me wish I could go out and vote for DeSantis today!

Bottom line, this gets some people excited but this stuff is not real important in the big scheme of things.

No red-blooded American guy–who isn’t off in some biblical Israel fetish–likes the Israel fellating. But Jews are the most powerful/organized ethnic group in America, and so our policy gets jacked around Israel’s way. Every foreign nation understands that’s exactly what’s going on. Americans pay a foreign policy cost for it. But this sort of ethnic interference is tractable. America can give Jews this bone, and it isn’t a big deal.

The crisis is not with a Jewish approved foreign policy, but the Jewish approved domestic policy–minoritarianism, anti-white ideology, immigration lunacy, balkanization, population replacement.

Demographic destruction–the toll of immigration lunacy and anti-white and dysgenic fertility–is what is destroying America. With the “Biden” Administration amping all of this up with an openly genocidal waving-’em-on-through-and-drown-the-goyim open border policy.

That’s the critical issue.

“Clownworld overthrown”

Most definitely. But we need to realize that Western elites have already pushed us into a post-human world. Our death warrants have been signed. If we’re not to be burnt offerings to their god then we’ll be drawer-dwelling protoplasm from which technicians will remove cell samples.

If you’re waiting around for a leader then by all means line up for another booster.

Not seeing anything like that here.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/

The entire reason why Trump lost 2020 (if the polls are to be believed) is because he lost some of the share of the white vote that he had in 2016. How? By pandering to Blacks and Minorities. Remember the Platinum plan. And in no lesser degree due to being a huge disappointment.

Important for people to grasp the highlighted.

I don’t know how much direct fraud vs. ballot harvesting vs. breaking the law (in some states) for mail-in voting vs. deep state censorship of Biden information vs. the Covid attack on Trump.

But the exit polling was pretty clear, Trump gave back some of his white male support. that had given him his upper-Midwest breakthrough. He actually picked up slightly with white women and minorities, but lost support with his best voters.

My guess is two reasons:

1) Hillary Clinton.
In 2016 a lot of non-political “independent” white guys, and probably even a bunch of Democrats, didn’t really want to listen Hillary giving them finger wagging lectures for the next 4 or 8 years. (I sure didn’t though I thought, “that will be great for the Republicans long term”.) With Biden they thought “Ok, this old turd seems pretty harmless.” (They were wrong–and they didn’t actually get “Joe Biden”–but that’s how it seemed.)

2) White guys actually expect people to do shit.
Trump’s a drama queen, whose obsession in life is … Donald J. Trump. For true believers that’s ok–he pokes the right enemies, he entertains. But for some guys that “let’s talk about me” stuff is like dealing with the wife … except they aren’t banging Trump, so it gets old real fast. On the “shut up and get stuff done” side of the ledger Trump under-delivered.

In Richard Baris’s latest Florida poll, President Trump wins every single category against DeSoros: black, white, young, old, Cuban, even suburban and college educated!

“Big difference from our last Florida Poll to this month: Trump now leads 57.1% to 21.9% among white voters, up from 50.6% to 34.7%”

Wow! DeSoros is truly burnt toast.

Perhaps you should switch to the fat loser?

Love him or hate him, all others are also rans.

And personally, I have serious issues with Trump’s continued praise of the democidal clot shot. Stupid narcissist. But who said the messenger had to be perfect, right?

This makes Republican voters feel sorry for Trump and want to nominate him for a third run and a second defeat.

I’d say the core thing has nothing to do with any “feel sorry for Trump” nor do the indictments do much of anything.

Rather I think it’s simply that a lot of Republican voters bonded with Trump in 2016 and the aftermath. Trump came out and said a bunch of–pretty obvious–things they believe, which GOPe candidates didn’t do. And then the hate-the-flyovers establishment went ape shit crazy with their Trump derangement–attacking them and their interests/concerns/feelings via Trump–bonding them further. Then the Covid lockdown crazy probably juiced this some more.

Trump is simply “Our Guy” to a whole bunch of people.

I happen to think this loyalty is utterly undeserved. Trump simply doesn’t return that loyalty. Trump isn’t about “the American people”, their interests, their future. He’s about himself.

But I understand it. When the establishment shows utter contempt and pisses on you, your family, your interests, your future, for your whole life, the guy who pisses back is a hero–“our guy”.

Paul is a peddler of goldbuggery and the most pig headed sort of interwar isolationism. Not worth anyone’s time.

Hell, Trump made at least two donations to Kamala Harris, the latest of which was in 2013.

If he’s smart, he will continue to do so.

I sincerely believe that we would not be in the situation with Ukraine/Russia that we are today if [Trump] was still president.

Note that the Minsk 2 Accord which Ukraine signed in 2015 was a settlement for the Eastern regions of Ukraine between Ukraine and Russia negotiated by France and Germany. The U.S. first under Obama and then under Trump (for 4 years) and then by Biden all consciously allowed Ukraine to not implement the agreement that it had signed. Instead Obama, Trump and Biden all shoveled Billions in weapons to Ukraine to prepare for a military conflict with Russia.

A primary reason that Russia invaded Ukraine was because Trump help plow the ground to make it happen.

Trump is a lying incompetent toad. And that fat, 78 year old narcissist would be WYSIWYG in 2024.

Steve, I think your post has the implicit premise of ‘I prefer some Republican candidates over others, but what matters a lot more is having a Republican rather than a Democrat win’. But for a lot of Trump voters it doesn’t work that way at all. Many of them aren’t ‘Republicans’ (at least not by choice and conviction). Sure, gun-to-head, they would likely prefer DeSantis or whoever to Biden, but not by a lot.

Given that the 2024 race is up in the air (no matter what anybody says who asserts they ‘know’ who’s going to win), it’s a rational calculation for them to roll the dice on the guy they prefer to any other realistic candidate of either party, even if they think he has a slightly worse chance of winning.

Don’t forget the Irish factor. The Dems chose Biden to lure away Trump’s Irish voters.

The logic behind Trump is simple. It’s way too late to put out the dumpster fire that is America, so might as well pour gasoline on it (before gas is outlawed). Maybe it will explode and at least take out a few of them with us. Who knows, we might even be able to move over to the sewer grate down the street – at least there might be some warm air coming up from it.

Speaking of warm air:
https://www.ucsusa.org/about/news/more-1000-scientists-sign-letter-urging-pres-biden-cut-emissions-half-2030-0
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/environment/more-1600-scientists-including-nobel-laureates-declare-climate-crisis

So, as regards the Climate Emergency, that’s 1600 against and 1000 for – the Nays have it.
Anybody who insists on taking drastic action to prevent Climate Change is not only ignoring The Science, but is threatening Our Democracy!

Democrats are quite vulnerable on several issues with potential cross-racial appeal:

High income? Why do they demand you pay reparations* for their atrocities?

Low income? Their immigration policy says you cost too much already. And your rent is too low.

Take your faith seriously? Why do they want your children to burn in Hell?

Republicans will never make these cases out loud🐣🐤🐥🐔, so it will have to be up to outside organizations to do so.

By the way, the Biden Administration’s actions say every single one of the “refugees” let loose in the land is capable of and can be trusted with responsible “constitutional carry”.

Maybe a more pertinent question is: Can Mitch McConnell stop playing John Fetterman? Another brain freeze today for the Turtle.

Whatever happened to Shermy?

Paul is a peddler of goldbuggery

Politicians promise, and lie. Central bankers promise, and lie. Precious metals do neither. Who is more worthy of our trust?

and the most pig headed sort of interwar isolationism.

Had we listened to Lindbergh Sr, we would have had no need for Lindbergh Jr.
Why it took a native of Stockholm to explain the Monroe Doctrine in its land of origin is curious indeed.

You’re pretty good at seeing through the conventional wisdom of the present. But you swallow the conventional wisdom of the past.

It’s a matter of opinion. US is supposed to have a secret ballot, which has to make it impossible to discover the origin of a ballot once it is cast. I may be wrong, but I think all you can do is point out significant anomalies or irregularities in the process. Or you can get bad actors to flip like somehow the prosecutors were able to do in those Cook County elections in the 1980s that Sailer has posted about.

DeSantis has a record and political experience, the lack of which hindered Trump considerably (not to mention the timidity he tried to hide with bluster). I am disheartened by the inability of the GOP electorate to move beyond Trump. Politicians are tools, not buddies. If the wrench is broken, you get another.

Apologies it was an Emerson national poll.

The latest 2024 Emerson poll has Trump up 2 over Joe Biden

For reference, at this point in 2020, they had Biden up 4

He’s literally never been in a stronger position to win the presidency pic.twitter.com/pbVuijEUdM

— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) August 28, 2023

Lots of voters are emotionally invested in Trump, including a whole lot of women. These are often people who don’t vote much, and some might not even bother to vote for Trump, but they will almost certainly stay home/not fill out ballot if it’s some other Republican.

I think Steve and a lot of older commenters don’t quite realize what a mess is going on in the under-50 demographic. The quality of Americans is not what it used to be. Birth control, abortion, the sexual revolution, etc., have done enormous damage and it’s showing now. Many people aren’t voting rationally – not even out of “enlightened” self-interest (which is what got us into this mess in the first place) – but rather out of primordial passions. In the long run I’m sure there’s a logic to it; probably more sophisticated than anything humans can muster, but it’s essentially out of our hands.

There’s really no “fixing” things at this point. The drama will play out one way or another. Predictions are increasingly tenuous. We have no idea what the future will bring. For example, why do we assume the Democrats, if they do seize total power, will not themselves shatter into factions? I don’t think one party can hold things together in this strange situation wherein there are essentially four nations in one “democratic” empire. What is the unifying principle?

Consider that Democratic ideology is all about social disunity and Republican ideology is economic disunity. This demonstrates that although we don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, the general direction is more disunity, which probably means conflict of some sort no matter who is in charge.

You’re pretty good at seeing through the conventional wisdom of the present. But you swallow the conventional wisdom of the past.
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Goldbuggery was the conventional wisdom of the past. It proved disastrous.

2) White guys actually expect people to do shit.
Trump’s a drama queen, whose obsession in life is … Donald J. Trump. For true believers that’s ok–he pokes the right enemies, he entertains. But for some guys that “let’s talk about me” stuff is like dealing with the wife … except they aren’t banging Trump, so it gets old real fast. On the “shut up and get stuff done” side of the ledger Trump under-delivered.

That’s it.

White people are supporting Trump because he’s a waystation on the way to something else. Nobody knows what that will be, but there’s a pretty substantial loss in credibility among conservative Whites in the old institutions and norms they used to worship (military, CIA, FBI, elections are valid, etc.). So, they are slowly working themselves toward something new.

This is true. At least I hope this is true. Despite my above criticism of Trump, I will give a certain amount of credit: he helped people realize that Republicans can be blunt, proud, and honest about what they stand for – and win. Prior to Trump too many Republican candidates, especially presidential ones, acted like they had to apologize for wanting to secure the borders, wanting to eliminate affirmative action, wanting to reform welfare. To some degree this is because they didn’t really want to secure the borders, but that’s another matter. Trump was just the latest powerful reminder that these are powerful issues which are favored by an absolute majority of Americans.

Trump blew the door wide open, at least on immigration. He talked a lot less about affirmative action, since he wanted to win some of the black vote (or at least not incite it), but his judicial appointees appear to be well on the way to ending AA.

But again…he isn’t going to win. Whatever new it is that Republican voters are looking for, I hope we find it very, very soon. I have a hunch that the best way to weakening Trump would be to run ads talking about his campaign contributions, his pardon of Sholom Rubashkin, and the attempted Sackler settlement. The Rubashkin issue especially could get a lot of traction in Iowa. The Sackler settlement might, too.

Limited government, sound money, Federalism, freedom… not concepts that a guy like Art Deco has the imagination for, huh?

It’s easy if you try …

So you think the Democrats are plotting to make Trump the nominee?

I’d think they’d want to do the opposite; push DeSantis and get the Republicans fighting each other. Trump is the consensus candidate; he’s going to get the nomination. The only real question is how many Republicans get alienated along the way. Reassuring them that Trump’s indeed the right choice wouldn’t make much sense.

Look how cute Steve is being here! He says the Dems are shredding the Constitution during the Republican primary as a reverse-psychology op in order to support Trump. So if Republicans were smart they’d do a double-reverse psychology op. by dumping Trump and nominating a neocon uniparty hack like Pence. (Who wouldn’t win, and wouldn’t change anything if he did.)

In other words, objecting to fascist, deep state oligarchy is playing right into the oligarchy’s hands. So what you really want to do is support the oligarchy. That’ll show ’em.

This is about as dumb and/or dishonest as any of Steve’s political takes, all of which are trainwrecks.

The deep state are trying to take out Trump because he’s the one person who is a potential existential threat to their rule. Last time he tried to get along with the Establishment and they stabbed him in the back, big time. This time, he’s older and wiser and he’s f*cking pissed off. He’s the only candidate with any chance of changing anything meaningful.

Here is Tucker Carlson’s recent interview with Viktor Orbán, who argues that Trump is the best choice:

Ep. 20 Hungary shares a border with Ukraine. We traveled to Budapest to speak with the country’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán. pic.twitter.com/LOzpMrQNIz

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) August 29, 2023

Nothing will change right now because too much of the voting public thinks we can keep kicking the can down the road as far as dealing with our fiscal problems. The federal government will have to go bankrupt. There will be a Great Depression II which will be twice as long and twice as deep as the first Great Depression. All our elites will become discredited by this as everyone slowly realizes they were the ones who led us into this.

Mark, you’re doing the whole “the coming collapse … will save us” shtick–which you share with a bunch of other people here.

A bunch of people just do not seem to understand government debt and what’s real/not about the economy.

— The US government is not “going bankrupt”. It can print money till the cows come home. (Yes, we have a kludgy Fed intermediary, but with the stroke of a pen Congress could cut through that knot and abolish all those Treasuries the Fed holds. And decide to monetize as much of the US debt as desired. I.e. your Treasury bond/note/bill comes due, they hand you the cash.)

— The core problem the US has is that it imports about 5% of its consumption. Probably more like 15% in terms of real goods. It pays for that with debt and asset sales. This is bad and unsustainable.

— The budget problem is essentially old folks entitlements in an increasingly graying America. (And a dumber, less capable workforce to pay for it … with more parasitic overhead attached as well.)

What this means is:
— inflation
— lower relative living standards (than we’d otherwise have)
— higher taxes
— re-shoring of industry

Basically Americans are going to be quite a bit poorer relative to what could have been.

But the STEM folks have continued to do their jobs. Technical innovation continues apace. AI and robotics are going to drive up productivity even more. Baring some sort of energy crisis–which is quite tractable with nukes–we are not going to be suffering any inability to produce. Quite the reverse, it will be easier than ever.

These economic factors–but far more importantly the demographic disaster–will mean that America (and the rest of the West) will be far, far poorer than they could have been because of the “leadership” of our parasitic verbalist overclass. But they’ll still be bread on the table–and actually much, much more.

Trump was used to people doing what he told them to do.

Cuccinelli is crying that he couldn’t get Mnuchin on the phone. Then he blames Trump for not following up.

Cuccinelli’s job was to see that what Trump told him to do, got done. If Cuccinelli couldn’t get Mnuchin on the phone he should have gotten in his car, walked into Mnuchin’s office, drug him across his desk by his necktie and given him his orders.

It was Cuccinelli, not Trump that was to blame for that as in so many other cases involving Trump. The people working for Trump were the cowards and the backstabbers.

there’s a pretty substantial loss in credibility among conservative Whites in the old institutions and norms they used to worship (military, CIA, FBI, etc.).

You are a master of understatement.

This is Trump’s great achievement – and it is, indeed, a great achievement: many, many Republican voters now hate, loathe & despise, the goddamn “Intelligence” & “Security” agencies.

For some reason, who know’s why, he drove them nuts, and they cast off their masks.

There is no identifiable “man for the job” until the work is underway. We are not voting our way out of this, so there’s no candidate to get behind.

BB753 is quite right in mentioning Madero. What began in 1910 with an election went on for a couple of decades of war and revolution. Madero thought he was simply making a political change, but the forces of social revolution blew right past him.

What inevitably happens in every social revolution since the beginning of recorded history is that as political institutions fail, they are succeeded by military force. Thus the Gracchi are succeeded by Caesar, Parliament bows to Cromwell, the Rights of Man take a back seat to Napoleon, etc.

We are mislead in thinking the American War of Independence was a revolution. It was a political change, not a social one. 21st Century America is heading into a social revolution. We can’t know who will be our Caesar, Cromwell, Napoleon, only that we’ll have one (and let’s hope it’s not Pol Pot).

Since Steve popped the election cherry …

The one thing that has surprised me is that the Democrats do not seem to have had a plan for getting Joe Biden to walk away.

Trump and Hillary were too old to run in 2016. Trump was obviously over the hill in 2020. But the establishment running the obviously declined and only marginally there Biden in 2020 was a just an insult to Americans, to America.

And now they seem to content, to let a stumbling, recurringly incoherent, obviously somewhat senile Biden run again at 82, with the backup the incompetent, embarrassing, unpleasant, unliked Harris? These are “the adults in the room”? Governing, I understand–they’ve got their governing minyan and don’t need Biden to do anything at all. But letting Joe be the front man again? I honestly thought they had some sort of plan.

Steve – here’s the frightened, decrepit, confused old man who’s the Senate Minority Leader being hauled around DC instead of back home in low-stress, familiar surroundings with family and friends.

So to reiterate, no, the Republicans intend to do nothing that involves either conserving or winning.

Man I love that Atilla the Handler he’s got with him. She is going to wring every last paycheck out of that position. When he dies she’ll pull a ‘Weekend at Bernies’ number with his corpse for that final two week pay period. This would make a great sketch.

[Atilla the Handler wheels McConnell’s blotched, smelly corpse out to the podium.] “The Senator has laringytis! You’ll need to relay your questions through me!” …

[Leans closer to McConnell’s putrid remains.] “What’s that, Senator? The Senator says no more questions at this time!” [McConnell’s lower mandible falls off.]

I doubt that Steve thinks that Pence is the answer. I’m guessing that Steve would prefer DeSantis over Trump.

Pathetic! When half of your pols need adult diapers you know you’re in trouble.

My completely clueless diagnosis: that was a psychosomatic reflex. When the questioner asked about 2026 reelection, he instinctively didn’t want to answer as it touches close to his mortality. So, before he could compose himself and give a non-answer like we will cross the bridge when we come to it, his nervous system kicked in and pulled the voltage to zero.

So, Steve:

How’s your trust in the “intelligence” agencies holding up?

How about your trust in the “public health” authorities?

Tucker Carlson’s “off the chain”, as they say in African American vernacular.

Tucker confirms media is controlled by intel. pic.twitter.com/K5dnXrrCSR

— Phenomenology (@BerryRazi) August 30, 2023

If the Democrats are smart, they’ll have Biden pardon Trump (unless this is somehow not possible, as I’ve heard)

A Federal President can’t pardon someone of state crimes. The Georgia prosecution has grounds to move it to Federal court … although I’m not sure how that would work with it juggling state criminal charges with Federal law controlling a lot of things about Presidential actions, but the NYC charges are based on claims about actions prior to Trump becoming President.

I don’t think it really matters, your idea is butting against an all out against the Right in general “show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” plus another major campaign of combing through existing Federal laws and regulations plus making stuff up to harm a lot of people on the right and very clearly send a message.

Biden not campaigning used to be called a “Rose Garden campaign” in its original meaning.

It doesn’t matter who the gop sends up in 2024. Nationally, we’re a one-party dictatorship. The Big Steal of 2020 will be followed by The Big Steal of 2024.

Trump was the last chance to save the 50-state America, but he turned out to be a conman who only talks about the things patriots care about–secure borders, deporting foreign criminal invaders–when he’s out of power. He had a chance to stop the unconstitutional changes to the voting laws in the states, but he did nothing.

And he’s not going to change for the better, but it doesn’t matter anymore.

The only hope is for “America” to break up, with some new, independent countries that are overwhelmingly White, while others are left behind which are overwhelmingly non-White. That goal may be aided by BRICS’ destruction of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. However, secessionist areas are going to have to develop alternatives to the U.S. dollar. To the degree that there are alternative currencies, Washington will lose power.

I ask, because there seems to be no distance at all between you & Victoria Nuland when it comes to the unfolding disaster in Ukraine, and, if possible, even less distance between you & Anthony Fauci when it comes to Covid.

Greetings, AnotherDad,

I respectfully disagree. The U.S. “government” went bankrupt on June 5th, 1933. It has been perpetually bankrupt ever since. It cannot “print money” as only gold and silver are money. The FED does, however, print currency (which it loans to the “government” at interest) which is a debt based instrument. (You cannot pay a debt at law with a debt based instrument as only gold and silver coin can be used as a tender in payment of a debt.) Debt is the currency of slaves.

When the U.S. “government” went bankrupt it pledged all the land, all the homes and all the future labor of the citizens/slaves as collateral for the glorious debt, without the knowledge or consent of the American people. Essentially, all property in America became mortgaged and held (in Trust) for the Federal Reserve bank as collateral for the debt. When you pay a so called “property tax” or an ad valorem tax on an automobile you are paying the interest on the value of the collateralized debt obligation to the superior title holder. (Obviously, if you truly owned the property, to whom would you pay a “tax”?)

By bankrupting the feral “government” the international bankers turned a formerly free, formerly prosperous people living under a Constitutional Republic into an enslaved people living under communism.

Cheers! ☮

That is one powerful lady. (Fetching, too, but then fetching ladies from about 22 on practically sprout out of the cracks in the sidewalk in D.C.—senate and house aides, lobbyists, etc.) She is in control of the senior senate seat from kentucky, and of the entire republican party in the senate.

I think you don’t see how far gone this political system has gotten, Mr. Sailer.

I think, rather, that he sees it but simply doesn’t give a damn. My bet is that he views his own niche in the Coming Rainbow-American Dispensation as being pretty secure.

‘…Governing, I understand–they’ve got their governing minyan and don’t need Biden to do anything at all. But letting Joe be the front man again? I honestly thought they had some sort of plan.’

That’s what gets to me. It’s not just that largely, the Jews are now in charge. That would be irritating, but not the end of the world.

It’s that they’re in charge — and it turns out they’re utterly incompetent.

Since Steve popped the election cherry …

The one thing that has surprised me is that the Democrats do not seem to have had a plan for getting Joe Biden to walk away.

Not quite. I read a couple of months ago that a court has ruled that the Democrat and Republican parties are registered as corporations.

As such, the DNC and RNC can set the rules for who is selected as candidates for President and Vice President. Right now the DNC is using Joe the doddering parasite as a placeholder. If Biden goes south cognitively, the DNC could announce that Joe is off the ticket because of his infirmity and swap in someone else like Newsome.

Moreover, Trump is the only Republican that Biden could beat. The Dems are happy to keep Trump in the news as a sacrificial lamb so that the deluded Trump supporters ensure he is nominated by sticking with him. By doing that they think they are sticking there thumb in the eye of the Dems.

The Dems have a plan alright…

McConnell looks to be dumbstruck by horror. Over what I don’t know for certain, but I can take an educated guess.

No anti-Invade/Invite candidate will be President in 2024. Not Trump, not Vivek, not RFK. There are two factions now, globalists and populists, and they map only roughly onto the parties. GOP is maybe 60/40 populist; Dems are about 80/20 globalist.

A coldly rational populist faction would forget about the presidency except to use the campaign for free publicity. All their resources should go into congressional, state and local races.

Globalists want a big confrontation around the presidential election, and the top dogs are bonering over mass arrests and prosecutions of populists on a scale to dwarf J6. Why play that game? What if they gave an election and nobody showed up?

“Is your hate pure, Eddie?” as Cockburn once asked.

I don’t think normies, including normie chuds, for all their bluster, are really ideologically motivated. It’s Monday Night football for them. Polling data shows this. This is why normie-cons will lose and will only manage to get the taxes lowered for people on J. Epstein’s flight logs.

Their bogeymen are caricatures. It’s fun and games. Q-Anon is like a mystery in which banal midwits get to be the hero. They aren’t the kind of person who hates their enemy even if said enemy is nice to the puppies. That’s why they might be turned off by ruthlessness beyond political shenanigans, and they go on ad nauseum about “getting stuff done” by “reaching across the aisle.” Dang it, why can’t those crooks in Washington get off their asses and get something done! Stop that bickering and get to business.

Personally, I want Congress to stay a miserable place for its inhabitants with no across the aisle friendships.I want them to despise each other and continue to backstab. Bipartisanship usually births unholy monsters.

Proctor&Gamble doesn’t put new product ideas to a vote of the general public.

They put it to a vote of a focus group. Eventually the general public votes on it if it gets to that stage. Not a good example.

Sound money and just war theory according to which 90% of wars are unjust. Not a near pure Libertarian like the old man. I can relate to that.

It’s hard to think of a politician more psychologically unsuited to the national divorce project than Donald Trump. He loves grandiosity not shrinking things.

Dr. Dutch Boy favors absence seizures caused by stroke damage.

That’s right, the demand for “proof” of fraud is a distraction. You don’t need to prove fraud, just that there were significant irregularities in the voting/counting.

In a serious country, every election contest where election observers were forced, tricked or intimidated into absenting themselves from the count, would be invalidated and run again, this time under close bipartisan supervision. That’s never going to happen though, because Team Blue will never cooperate.

The thing I do not understand about people who want to nominate Trump is how they account for the very real possibility that he will be in prison before November. I am not sure there is some way to swap in a new candidate on the ballot if the person who won the primaries gets locked up in August or September. I suppose he could win even if in prison, which would then set up an interesting Supreme Court decision about whether his victory requires his immediate release, at least for the duration of his term.

But letting Joe be the front man again? I honestly thought they had some sort of plan.

I guess the key question is who are the “they,” that have the power to actually force Biden to step aside. It’s not going to be the nominal Dem “leaders” or the DNC. It would have to be the IC guys who have the intelligence on Biden to force him out involuntarily, if necessary. They surely had/have a plan for that. But there are still a lot of timing and political constraints they have to work through.

First, they would love to keep Biden if they can. Because he’s a non-entity who is 100% under their control. The Deep State obviously knew all about his Bribery Machine during the last election and chose him precisely because they could take him down (along with his whole extended family) at will, and Biden would always know it. They don’t want to ditch their ideal candidate unless and until they absolutely have to.

Second, they won’t have to necessarily ditch Biden if a pro-deep state tool like, say, Pence or Christie is the nominee (maybe DeSantis, too). Likewise, if Trump is fatally damaged by the indictments, they may calculate they can still ride with Biden. That was clearly Plan A. (But they’ve no doubt been surprised by how much Republicans have run to Trump, and not away, over the sham indictments.)

Third, pulling the plug on Biden opens a big ‘ol can of worms for who will replace him. If it happens during the primary season, it could open it up to an uncontrolled process of actual voting! That’s the last thing they want — they could end up with a brokered convention nominating RFK, jr.!!

I’d guess they try to ram Joe through the primary process while every major Dem is required to stand down. Then Joe will develop a “disease” as he promised he would (see first post-2022 interview answer below), and throw his delegates to the designated replacement that “they” are most able to control. (Newsom? Buttijudge?)

“This post is pretty hilarious.”

Indeed, it is. iSteve got deservedly roasted over the coals this past month for not reporting about Trump’s latest legal problem, ALL of which is Trump’s own doing. Mr. Sailer knows this beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it’s financial rush month, so he will just say enough about the subject.

As far as Democrats and their “meddling”, NOTICE that Mr. Sailer’s analysis conveniently left out this important point— Of course, the outlook might change for some of these seats before Election Day. And we don’t know that Democratic meddling actually made any difference in those primaries, let alone that it provided the margin of victory for the winning candidates. And yes, it’s fair to note that the “attacks” were only effective to the extent that Republican voters were willing to vote for extremists in the first place, even in swing districts where it might hurt them in the general election. The blame for that falls squarely on Republicans, not Democrats.—

“But Steve will twist his mind into knots to avoid the simple truth that they hate us and want us dead.”

No, they just hate you and want you dead.

It’s you and the Never-Trumpers vs. me and my man Orban. “Best American foreign policy in the last 40 years.” But we can agree that compared to perfect, Trump sucks.

https://revolver.news/2023/08/orban-tucker-trump-is-the-man-who-can-save-the-western-world/

We can also agree that Russia did not invade Ukraine when Trump was president.

I feel sorrow for the grievances of the Ukrainians and of the Russians. But the fact that the Ukrainians are managed by the lying and demonic neocons causes me to lean to the Russians.

Trump is a repugnant character who I wouldn’t let into any club of mine, but the fact that CIA’s been running full-on color revolutions against him since 2016 causes me to cheer him on.

The Dems chose Biden to lure away Trump’s Irish voters.

Are they charmed when he says, as he has several times, “I may be Irish but I’m not stupid”?

Absence seizure seems to be a childhood illness. Non-motor seizure seems to describe it better.

A non-motor seizure could be a brief period of absence or blankness, where the person stops moving and looks as if they are staring into space.

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Great comment. I have a question: I can imagine Biden stepping down and the charges against him being dropped. No way are they going to put Joe Biden in prison. But would they allow him to keep all the millions in bribes he collected?

I pretty much agree with what you say. When I say we will go bankrupt I don’t necessarily mean the federal government will formally declare bankruptcy, though I think that would be preferable. What will more likely happen, as you say, will be money printing and inflation. That is already happening. Over the last two years real incomes have dropped as wage increases have lagged behind inflation. A typical family now spends several hundred dollars more a month than two years ago. Credit card debt has exploded and has passed a trillion dollars as people pay for things with their credit cards. People will be quite a bit poorer in the future.

Eventually that verbalist parasitic overclass will be discredited. We have our corrupt politicians in government and a corrupt crony capitalist system where special interests receive money from them. They will be dislodged from power by a Trump type of party. In 2016 working class whites in the 30 to 5o thousand-dollar income range and lower middle-class whites making between 50 and a hundred thousand dollars voted for Trump over Hillary by 57% to 38%. She won the whites making over a hundred thousand dollars a year along with nonwhite Jewish, Asian, black and Hispanic voters.

After the current elites are tossed aside things will start improving. Ray Kurzweil has predicted amazing advances in the future, and he will likely be right.

Haley was also a conservative and successful governor of South Carolina for two terms. Again, successful competent governor with no scandal is a rarity there.

Yeah, other than the alleged adultery.

And she began the process of suppressing confederate symbols (in South Carolina of all places).

And of course there’s the fact that she is a bought-and-paid-for-tool of the zionist lobby and the military industrial complex.

Other than all that, she’s great.

Paul is a peddler of goldbuggery and the most pig headed sort of interwar isolationism. Not worth anyone’s time.

It isn’t “isolationism”. It’s “minding-your-own-business-ism”. There’s nothing wrong with it.

The video is funny. But before anyone thinks that is a recipe for becoming a billionaire fast, there is a crucial prerequisite: You have to have degrees from Harvard and Yale. Without them, if you go to a hedge fund and ask for $100 million, they will loosen dogs on you.

A lot of the comments here basically prove Steve’s point. I guess it’s 4 more years of Biden.

Steve, who do you prefer instead? Rhonda Santis? Is it because Rhonda is trans?

Is Rhonda Santis transitioning? https://t.co/alQf21c89M

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) August 26, 2023

You didn’t seem to get the point. Trump made decisions with no plans in mind to get them done.

If Cuccinelli couldn’t get Mnuchin on the phone he should have gotten in his car, walked into Mnuchin’s office, drug him across his desk by his necktie and given him his orders.

No, that was Trump’s job. Mnuchin worked for Trump. He could be replaced, or threatened to be replaced. Cuccinelli couldn’t do that.

There were plenty of backstabbers (that Trump HIRED!). Cuccinelli was not one of them.

Trump is an incompetent boob, as much as he means well.

Yes, I’m glad that now we’re getting to THE ISSUES!

(Just like his Dad.)

I think Steve is trying to be a voice of calm and reason in a political tropical storm that is quickly intensifying into a Cat 5 Hurricane.

With all respect, you’re not an accountant, AD. Mark G. is, or something of the sort. I am not, but I can read a freaking pie chart in the back of an IRS 1040 instruction book .pdf. (Also, I read Zerohedge daily for a couple of years a decade ago – they got it right.)

Mark, you’re doing the whole “the coming collapse … will save us” shtick–which you share with a bunch of other people here.

If you refer to me as one of them, you are wrong. I KNOW there’ll be a financial collapse, because there can’t NOT be. However, I don’t think it’s necessarily going to save us.

In fact, these are the sort of times that the Communists have always taken advantage of, when things are economically and politically dicey. Ron Paul is one optimistic SOB, so he almost always writes a last paragraph in his columns that says basically “we gotta spread the word on sound money, Federalism, ending the Empire’s wars, etc., so people will set things right.”

Yeah, but when you import 50,000,000 people who are not the type to read Reason magazine or get that Citizenship in the Nation merit badge, I’m not sure how far limited-government, Constitutional ideas will spread, personally…

Ron Paul actually knows that now, but I wish he’d had that in mind 11 years ago when I told him in person: “If you want to win [State REDACTED], you gotta talk about illegal immigration.” Imagine if he had, in the ’12 GOP primary. When people don’t listen to me, bad things happen.

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Led Zeppelin had something to say about how this all will go down: There are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there’s still time to change the road you’re on … Take if from here, Jimmy Page!

If you exclude the shady ballots, Trump probably won by 10 million votes. Thus, to start the article with the idea that the Republicans are choosing a Charlie Brown strategy just frames the entire debate the wrong way. The Republicans chose a WINNING candidate on the assumption that we have elections. Their mistake was not in choosing the wrong candidate. It was in assuming we have elections. This is so obvious that I have to question Steve’s motives for writing this article in the first place.

“Sound money” is a slogan, not a policy. There is no need for gold to maintain price stability and gold is a danger in select situations. An affection for gold and fanciful conceptions of foreign affairs are Paul’s signatures. Paul is good and original. The good part is not original and the original part is not good.

The Catholic Church never collapsed, and the Enlightenment is what ultimately led to Marx.

There would be a “negotiation” where a brigade of infantry appeared at the prison for securing the release of the president.

The CIA has never been particularly admired among any segment of the political spectrum. The red haze left hated it because they favored the enemy during thee Cold War and saw the CIA as an impediment to what they wanted. As for the FBI, it actually did have considerable public admiration which it began to lose in the 1970s. This wasn’t sectarian, either. A Democratic president appointed J. Edgar Hoover in the first instance and four other Democratic presidents maintained him in office. The red haze disliked the FBI in the post-war period because they were targets.

His wife has no connection to Louisville and for nearly forty years, it’s been a voting address for him. As for family, at least two of his three daughters troll the man publicly. There is no home other than Washington, no family to speak of, and, one might wager, no set of authentic friends.

…too much of the country is not swayed by America First, pro-Citizen policies

Such policies have always polled well; and I imagine support should increase as the demographic-changing hordes flooding our border coalesce to the point where they start supporting the place they live instead of looting it.

Largest problem is that our massive gov’t money spending machine is linked to supporting all these damaging policies: “if you don’t support open borders, we will cut off SS; Medicare; ed spending; military spending; etc.”

Compare to California. Universal complaints about policies that increase crime; invite homeless; increase drug use, but people vote in the responsible politicians to keep the state slush fund flowing, and their favored regulations alive and growing.

“Potomac Regime”

More like the “Potomac-Manhattan-West Coast” Regime.

“So to reiterate, no, the Republicans intend to do nothing that involves either conserving or winning.”

McConnell is probably dying before our eyes. Kind of like his party. Or that other party, which is equally dysfunctional.

Let’s tell it like it is. The CIA has morphed into the equivalent of the Waffen SS, complete with its own military arm. Neither the CIA nor America’s Gestapo, the FBI, ever deserved “admiration” from either the Left or the Right.

Cool quips aside, Art, gold and, to almost the same extent, silver, have the half-dozen or more qualities that are required for something to be used as sound money. (You can look them up yourself – I was reading this stuff 20 years ago.) Ron Paul understands this. So does, .. so DO both Adam Smiths. So do I. You obviously don’t.

Next, what you call a fanciful conception is what came straight out of a speech by our most important Founder and 1st President George Washington. Stay TF out of foreign entanglements. (OK, he left out “TF”.)

Next time Physicist Dave, AD, Jack D. etc. get in an argument about the Russia/Ukraine war, I’ve got something to write that is very much along the lines of what Ron Paul would write. I don’t know 10% of what these guys do on the battles, the weaponry being used, the number of men killed and wounded, the number of Russians who live there, Victoria Nuland, etc, but you don’t NEED to know all that. I’ll get to it…

Sure, but the focus group doesn’t make the final decision, it’s just a helpful input. As I said, “opinion polls as necessary”.

Thanks for your insightful comments though I did not mention Madero. I’m not very familiar with Mexican history which I find very confusing.
In a nutshell, what you’re saying is that Trump could usher in inadvertently a revolution that could last a decade? Frankly, I don’t see that happening as the military is loyal to the government paying their checks rather than the constitution.
But supposing you were right, in the end I do see an oriental despot rising victorious and omnipotent from the struggle, not a Pol Pot, but someone like Xi Shing Ping, backed by a totalitarian technocratic state, the one we were seeing during the Covid lockdowns and mandates. If you prefer the French analogy, then a modern Napoleon, backed by financiers like Blackrock and Vanguard.

I don’t believe in democracy. But our friend seems to believe in the electoral process. I don’t. You have to be naive to believe in the system, particularly after 2020.

“What was Trump’s policy on Israel again? Will we get another four years of him spouting off about how he moved the capital to Jerusalem?”

Ignoring for the moment the fact that you are ignorantly confusing the US Embassy with Israel’s capital, which has been Jerusalem since 1949, why would that be bad?

how they account for the very real possibility that he will be in prison before November. I am not sure there is some way to swap in a new candidate on the ballot if the person who won the primaries gets locked up in August or September.

What’s wrong with governing from prison?

It mighty actually focus the convict’s mind on what he was elected to do rather than showboating.

Why is Ron DeSantis playing baseball in a sweater vest and 4 inch heels?

Regardless of what you think of DeSantis as a politician, he captained the varsity baseball team at Yale. What teams did Trump captain as he sashayed through Penn after his father greased the admissions committee to get him admitted?

“I look forward to Trump presenting actual evidence of the supposed cheating in court.”

The kritarchy has universally refused to examine evidence of cheating, all the suits having being dismissed on grounds of mootness, lack of standing, etc. without reaching the merits.

But you don’t have to wait for Trump to present it in court to see the evidence of cheating for yourself.

E.g., the readily-available video of the delivery to Cobo Hall in Detroit at 4am of van-loads of supposedly already canvassed (that is to say, signature-checked and separated from the enclosing envelopes) supposed absentee ballots in quantities sufficient to flip the state from Trump (who was significantly in the lead) to Biden, long after all election observers had been sent home on the grounds that the counting had finished (never mind that there was already nothing they could see, assuming the ballots were run through the counting machines only once).

In the same spirit as you, I look forward to you debunking this evidence of cheating by linking to an account of this being debunked in court. Because, to me, it certainly LOOKED like cheating, and if it wasn’t I’d like to know why I should think it was not.

Our political class isn’t drawing from the better among us, to put it mildly.

There is no need for gold to maintain price stability

In other words, bankers may ask you for collateral, but don’t you dare ask them to offer the same.

…and gold is a danger in select situations.

Then switch to silver, or platinum, or uranium. Then again, a pound of sterling now goes for three hundred and ten pounds sterling, so bimetallism (or transmetallism or non-binarimetallism) isn’t the answer. Metal fluidity!

Or is the danger not the metal itself, but that certain metals cannot be gamed? So we switch to bureaucrats appointed by politicians. Far less gamable, right?

1929 – 1913 = 16. Not confidence-inspiring.

So, they are slowly working themselves toward something new.

One hopes so. Else the White race will be exterminated.

“Millions of Republicans regard him as the Second Coming or close to it.”

And millions don’t. I for example soured on Trump a couple weeks after he came down the escalator in 2016 when “They all must go!” morphed into Pence’s ridiculous touchback amnesty scheme.

But I voted for him in the general twice, since he was so much better than HRC and Biden.

Sailer: “This makes Republican voters feel sorry for Trump and want to nominate him for a third run and a second defeat… It’s not like Trump has done anything since November 3, 2020 to broaden his appeal.”

Utter nonsense. For one thing, no one very much wants to nominate Trump because they are sorry for him. If he wins the election he’ll be fine, and the uniparty is going to have a hard time getting anywhere near decisions before the election takes place. Second, he doesn’t have to broaden his appeal if Biden is doing that for him. E.g., have you noticed any inflation? Yeah, me too, and everyone else. Also Biden pooping in his diapers and falling down.

The GOP anyway has no choice but to nominate Trump if they want any chance of winning, absent his death or a stroke or something equally catastrophic. Too many of his voters just won’t accept substitutes even if he didn’t run third party, which is likely.

What’s wrong with governing from prison?

It’s been done.

It helps if you have friends with the relevant competence:

For what it’s worth, Kentucky ranks about the median for a state’s richest billionaire. Three states, including Biden’s and Manchin’s, have no billionaires to turn to, so they need to develop other skills.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-the-richest-billionaires-in-us-states/

The CIA has never been particularly admired among any segment of the political spectrum.

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The Cold War, the “Red Scare” – all that is in the past – 50, 60 years ago. It’s dead and buried.

As for the FBI, it actually did have considerable public admiration which it began to lose in the 1970s.

They did, but then they started to gain it back again beginning in the 90’s or 2000’s with the War of Terror and it’s precursors.

Now we have, once again, public relations vehicles like this:

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I’m sure it’s been suitably wokified for the current year.

It’s true that the FBI and CIA have lost a lot of their luster with conservatives. But with political liberals of the New York Times / Washington Post / NPR set, who have become increasingly authoritarian, they seem to be more popular than ever. The CIA is now their kind of place:

Years ago I wondered why so many online WASPs hated the Irish so much. Then I read about Irish-American machine politics and I came to understand.

If it turns out this guy is Russian, Jack D and HA will say this is proof of Russian incompetence. If he’s Ukrainian, it will be proof of pluck and courage:

Blyat. pic.twitter.com/RjhCQ2Mde2

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) August 31, 2023

“It’s not like Trump has done anything since November 3, 2020 to broaden his appeal.”

Nope, I cannot think of a single thing. At least when he ran against the Hildabeast, he was offering health insurance reform, reduced drug pricing, repatriation of exported manufacturing jobs, a more pacific foreign policy, and a Great Wall.

Although rather hostile towards China in terms of the imbalance of trade, he got nowhere close to China in terms of building Great Walls. The Great Wall of Mexico was supposed to be paid for by Mexico, but that was one deal in which Trump was less than artful.

Trump trumpeted Operation Warp Speed–the acceleration of Covid-19 vaccine production as his greatest achievement, but in retrospect it was far from unique, with several other nations having similar programs to accelerate vaccine production, and there are a lot of members of his own party who remain doubtful of the benefits of vaccines.

Some people are now allegedly refusing to have pets vaccinated with known effective vaccines for canine diseases.

He personally delayed delivery of weapons to Ukraine, which probably emboldened Putin to move to seize territory in Ukraine.

If he really wants to be re-elected, what he should do–when he is not busy appearing in the dock or playing golf– is cash in his friendship with Putin and take a lead role in negotiating a peace treaty in the Russia-Ukraine war. Right now the situation is really pathetic with Biden and Son Ukraine Merchants doing nothing and the diplomatic lead being taken by countries like South Africa and Saudi Arabia.

We’ve seen Trump before and know who he is, so I have zero expectations on him being the least bit effective if elected.

But in the oft chance Trump does get re-elected … it will be an absolute hoot to see the exploding heads shit show.

If those are her alleged fallibilities, maybe they should put a statue of her in SC.

We have some exciting history:

https://www.centerforilpolitics.org/articles/governors-convicted-on-greater-federal-corruption-offenses

https://www.history.com/news/us-governors-impeached-convicted-left-office

who voted for Clarence Thomas? talk about the biggest bullet dodged in US history. of course he’s great. but nobody voted for him. 99% of the time, you get the wrong guy here. the rule remains.

was Jindal President at some point? i don’t recall that.

Nimrata Haley dislikes America and Americans and has ruled exactly as you would expect. now she’d like to continue dismantling the rest of the country as President. just like the guys running the UK today. and she’s supported by all the wrong people.

situations like Haley and Graham being permanent fixtures in South Carolina are what Steve is actually talking about here. underhanded political programs and tricks keep these negative value people in office on purpose, BECAUSE they are bad for America, not despite it.

1000 people got melted in Hawaii and Joe Biden laughed at them. result: not one single person in Hawaii doesn’t vote for Joe Biden again. or whoever the Democrat is next time around. indeed, the 1000 melted people will also vote for Joe again.

Steve doesn’t know what he’s talking about. he actually thinks that one of the people not named Trump has the slightest chance against the Democrats. they have no chance at all. they won’t go after the working class vote and won’t win. losing ONE PERCENT of the pale person vote is enough for the Democrat to win. they’ll lose what, 10% of their vote when Trump is not the candidate? Republicans are down to 1% margins here on the pale person vote. this thread is thin on math.

look at how hard Democrats are working to derail Trump’s campaign. that’s because he’s actually, slightly, dangerous to them. he’s a nearly useless buffoon, but there’s a small amount of real danger to Democrats when this guy is around.

the other Republicans are not dangerous at all and Democrats expend about 2% as much effort on them. maybe. could be more like 1% depending on how totally insane they go trying to stop Trump.

Snoopy happened to Sherman. A comment on iSteve recently linked to this great article by Christopher Caldwell analyzing the early greatness of the Peanuts cartoon and its terrible demise.

http://www.comicbookradioshow.com/againstsnoopy.html

Eugene Debs ran for President from prison. And was later pardoned.

The problem is, two major factions of the ‘right’ have virtually nothing in common, and thus cannot unite around a platform. The Democrats have a ‘coalition of the fringes’ too, but that is vastly easier to keep in the tent when it is the party that controls the media.

Here is an example of how conversations between a NeoConservative and a White Nationalist tend to go down:

it’s 4 more years of Biden.

The only Republican who has defeated an incumbent Democrat was Reagan. That was with 1980 demographics. We need a Reagan++ to upset the applecart. I don’t think that person exists. Not definitely in the gang of 9 (or whatever) currently running (or standing, more accurately).

Yeah, sure, if it’s very important to you to vote for THE #POLL-WINNER, then knock yourself out, GDA.

Love him or hate him, all others are also rans.

Surely they are. I mean, yes, Ron DeSantis, a 45 y/o successful (in policy), very popular Governor of one of the most populated States is an also-ran compared to a 78 y/o former TV and real estate man who had 4 years and flubbed up 90% of what he could have gotten done. Seriously?

Yes, FF Christie is worthless, the 2 Hindus are not people I trust (though I put the very sane sounding Mr. Ramalamadingdong miles above Nikki (Traitor – SC)), and who the heck were those 2 other White guys? (Truly, I just watched the ~15 min. clip on VDare of immigration invasion highlights and I don’t know who 2 of those guys are.) I know who Pence is. He’s a nice enough POS, but still a disloyal (to the country) NeoCon POS.

Giving “a bone” is already an admittance of defeat. Would you give any other group “a bone”? And I say this as someone who does not see a member of that group under every bed, unlike many an Unzite.

And, the empire always comes home, hence the balkanization. One can’t blame new arrivals legal or illegal. One has to blame the voters who elected charlatans who promised them the dopamine rush of kicking ass overseas (Highway to the Danger Zone, amirite?)

Jingoism aside, the domestic and foreign and inextricably linked. A foreign liberal policy will always reinforce domestic liberalism, and vice versa. This is something paleo types have realized for generations now, for decades while normies were still cheering and hooting for Toby Keith songs.

“They” have many bones because of decisions Angloids make. The domestic policy you decry of has roots going back centuries. Whites hate each other. It doesn’t take Jews to encourage whites to butcher each other. Narcissim of small differences.. I repeat myself, the Puritans were the original minoritarians. The bill of social and economic excess and global hegemony has now come due. We opened up China, and look at it now.

This isn’t hard, just stop going along. But the problem is a lot of normies are fine with going on for financial or psychological reasons, or too dim to see any connections. The problem isn’t the minority, it has always been the majority.

Excellent, Almost Missouri! It has the makings of a Babylon Bee or Peak Stupidity blog post.

“Trump solves immigration invasion problem in 3 weeks, as cell phone confiscated: Known to do thinking for 2 hours a day while roaming Fed prison yard dropping tunnel dirt out of his pants. Ctrl-left in state of shock!”

Thanks for the interesting context.

Not sure whether you meant to disagree with anything I said.

1000 people got melted in Hawaii and Joe Biden laughed at them. Result: not one single person in Hawaii doesn’t vote for Joe Biden again.

So sad, so true.

Sailer’s nebulous premise is that there’s actually some credible alternative person running, or not now running but available, in the GOP (I’ll concede for argument that Trump is “worse off than in 2016”– such a dimwitted, irrelevant horse-race point bespeaking the absolute state of e-punditry). If this donor-trafficked, unteachable, intransigent, spoiled-brat party refuses to adapt then it needs to die.

Specifically to DeSantis, who is not personally interesting nor does he have the stuff to turn out hordes of low-info Fatmerican voters vs. the Obama-Biden computerized ballot harvest– would be riding a bit higher now if his weakness for Kiev Fried Chicken hadn’t come out at the *start* of his campaign– couldn’t even manage some dilatory vague comments to pad until next year. He is less-than-meets-the-eye

Thanks – this really is the thing that everybody needs to understand: the CIA, the FBI, and so on and so forth – all of the so-called “intelligence” & “security” agencies – have never been anything but a bunch of stupid creeps making stupid, creepy mischief.

I keep seeing these articles that say Trump cannot win because he is not likable or whatever. It is shades of 2015, when the only pundit to have the balls (!) to proclaim he can win was Ann Coulter.

“Everyone hates Trump!” blare the headlines, while he enjoys a 40 pt lead in the Republican primary.

The only reason that Trump won in 2016 is because everyone thought Hillary was a shoo-in, which allowed the Dems to sit back and not actively cheat in the election.

I agree that Trump cannot win, but it is not due to his unlikability or his policies or whatnot. It is because the Dems will cheat with impunity, the courts will not provide him with standing in any suit he brings forth, regardless of how meritorious it is.

The Republicans are yelling about how they need to engage in ‘Ballot Harvesting’ or ‘get-out-the-vote’ activities. So sorry, but the Dems have a lock on those activities, what with their control of academic and news organizations.

There will never again be a Republican in the White House, not due to public rejection of their nominees, but due to Democrat cheating.

Erronius

Just to be clear about my perspective:
* I am not entitled to vote in the US.
* I view DeSantis more favorably than Trump at this point, but events might change my mind next week, and then change again the following week.

—- Having said that:
I do not understand why people having (supposedly) made up their mind about Trump, is such a big issue.

Surely, even if people made up their minds about Trump by 2020, they still might have changed their minds about Biden & Harris by now, given the damning empirical evidence?

In any case, even if Trump cannot win any more votes than in 2020, how can we be sure that any other R. candidate can win the votes that Trump can win?

There is also the fact that every Republican candidate is literally Hitler, until the next candidate comes along.

“Our political class isn’t drawing from the better among us, to put it mildly.”

Indeed, Majorie Taylor Greene is a train wreck. But the fact of the matter is that you, AnotherDad, and company ought to move the political needle in your community by running for office. You know, to show the way.

“The GOP anyway has no choice but to nominate Trump if they want any chance of winning”

So 72 million of his supporters are potentially willing to ignore his myriad of legal troubles and his failed attempt to “drain the swamp”, build the wall, etc. What does he even have to offer other than being a chaos agent?

“He says the Dems are shredding the Constitution during the Republican primary as a reverse-psychology op in order to support Trump.”

Except this strategy is actually protected free speech thanks to the Citizens United ruling.

“In other words, objecting to fascist, deep state oligarchy is playing right into the oligarchy’s hands”

That’s not even an accurate statement.

“This time, he’s older and wiser and he’s f*cking pissed off. He’s the only candidate with any chance of changing anything meaningful.”

Lol, he failed miserably to “drain the swamp”. Do you truly think he is gong to actually get it done if re elected?

Steve obviously doesn’t care about stuff like this. He’s perfectly fine with the big cheat.

No way are they going to put Joe Biden in prison. But would they allow him to keep all the millions in bribes he collected?

Presumably, yeah. Biden would pardon himself and his whole family before leaving office. (Or else resign with a deal that Kamala will do it, or if his “replacement” has won the November election then a deal that he/she will do it upon taking office.) So there would never be any real investigation or prosecution that could order the money disgorged.

Besides, the foreign bribe payers were also breaking the law and they would never come forward for restitution of the money, and presumably wouldn’t be entitled to it anyway, since they were just co-conspirators.

So I am pretty sure the Biden crime family would get to keep all their ill-gotten gains.

Marjorie Taylor Greene is a perfectly ordinary person. She has marital problems, but that’s as common as sand.

It’s very easy to cheat with postal votes. You just wait until the polls close on election day then have the computer spit out a list of all the people who haven’t voted. You then quickly fill out as many postal votes as you need to tip your candidate over the winning line.

“It’s not like Trump has done anything since November 3, 2020 to broaden his appeal.”

He’s not been in office thus allowing the Ds to lower their appeal. But, more importantly, he isn’t supported by Club for Growth or the Koch family unlike one of his more prominent primary opponents.

The mainstream media ensure that only a few people, like those of us on this site, know he said that and other stupid/outrageous/etc. things.

Yeah, other than the alleged adultery.

Her alleged partner’s confession was likely a political black op.

Agreed, Dutch Boy. It’s to the point of worship for some people.

They had their own failed big city mayor, John Lindsay.

Politicians are tools, not buddies. If the wrench is broken, you get another.

Exactly. Well said.

Tell me why a stooge would fight the Feds on the Flu Manchu PanicFest, the Wokeness, and the immigration invasion. It’s one thing to mouth off about all that to get support, but this guy gets things done. Believe what you want. I actually watch what people DO. Try that sometime.

‘How can anyone write an article on Operation Chaos without paying homage to the Late and Great Rush Limbaugh…’

He was a hell of a guy. A lot of what he said was bullshit — and sometimes vicious bullshit.

But it still makes me smile just to hear his name.

Can Republicans Stop Playing Charlie Brown?

No.

Works cited: Betteridge’s law.

‘Our political class isn’t drawing from the better among us, to put it mildly.’

That could be taken as the definition of a failing society.

What does he even have to offer other than being a chaos agent?’

What he has to offer is that he’s not Biden. It’s like if you offer me a choice between going to Oklahoma, and being sent to Auschwitz.

I’ll take Oklahoma.

A lot of what he said was bullshit — and sometimes vicious bullshit.

Some may even say he was Dr. Disinformation not just before any of Facebook or QAnon scandals, but even before Mark Zuckerburg was an embryo.

Agreed and Thanks!

“What he has to offer is that he’s not Biden”

Then you will want to get it good and hard, because he hates your kind and wants your financial support in the process.

She has mental problems you meant to say.

‘Steve, we elected Trump because of Democrat behavior. Democrats will stop behaving like this when we punish them, not when we reward them.’

When I read this, I immediately thought, Democrats will stop behaving like this when we get rid of them.’

…and it’s not a good sign that I thought that. Humpty Dumpty has definitely fallen off the wall.

Pierre de Craon wrote to Achmed E. Newman

[AEN] I think you don’t see how far gone this political system has gotten, Mr. Sailer.

[PdC] I think, rather, that he sees it but simply doesn’t give a damn. My bet is that he views his own niche in the Coming Rainbow-American Dispensation as being pretty secure.

No. It is simpler than that.

Steve is getting older.

As I recall, he is currently over sixty.

I can tell you, as someone approaching seventy: Revolution sounds like a lot more fun when you are in your twenties than when you are in your sixties!

Unfortunately, I myself just do not see how the US can avoid a very tumultuous period in the next couple decades. Either the United States of America goes down in a ball of flames, or we have a horrible tumult to avoid disaster.

It is not going to be pretty. And that is not real inviting to someone our age.

It is also interesting that Steve made famous the memes “Deep State,” now widespread across the Web and in the right-wing media. Had anyone seen the phrase widely used before Steve started pushing it?

And, similarly, with “Invade the World/Invite the World.”

And yet Steve now has trouble seeing that the Deep State proxy war in Ukraine is a clear example of “Invade the World,” about as clear as has happened in our lifetime.

Why?

Well… in Steve and my generation, the dividing line between Left and Right was that the Left denounced the anti-Communist US foreign policy and the Right embraced it. For those of us who grew up as anti-Leftists, it can be hard to shake that, to fully accept that the US interventionist foreign policy, as in Ukraine, is now truly a Leftist project.

As people get old, there is a tendency to return to the faith of their childhood.

And for Steve and me, that means an aggressive foreign policy.

For some reason, I seem a bit more resistant to that than Steve, but I do understand it.

Corvinus wrote to Gandydancer:

What does [Trump] even have to offer other than being a chaos agent?

Yes, that is why we will vote for him.

We live in a country in which children who are confused about their “gender” are being sexually mutilated.

We live in a country that is pouring tens of billions into a war to destroy the Russian Federation, using Ukrainians as expendable cannon fodder.

And we live in a country that is putting people in prison for pointing out that the 2020 election was… irregular.

Tens of millions of us think it is time to upend the chessboard and start the game over.

You are not going to enjoy the future, Corvinus. Time for a little chaos, indeed.